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It doesn't work in my city. There's only two mobile stations and neither works with the app. I've called and emailed corporate multiple times about this and they don't seem to be able to fix it. Apple Pay via the Speedpass app broke here in December 2016 for everyone and Mobile has no idea how to fix it. That's just another one of a sudden reasons why Apple Pay via app is stupid. JUST STICK AN NFC READER ON THE PUMPS LIKE THEY'VE HAD IN EUROPE FOR 20 YEARS!!! God why do we stupid Americans put up with this crap?

We had a few pop up with it, but then the ones closest to me never got enabled. I don't know why ExxonMobil just stopped as this would make them my go-to (too much skimming in my area). Until then, I use the NFC readers on the pumps that Meijer has (even though they don't have any gimmicks for 3-5¢ off like Kroger, Shell, or some others).
 
Nothing would please me more than to lose my wallet but what I need is wallet to allow me to upload ALL my club cards and licecenses.

Until I can add everything to Wallet it is not going to happen.
 
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I'd love to go wallet free, but it just isn't practical yet... Still need driver's license, health card, and what not. Also still need the credit card for the few hold outs here or for purchases over 100$.

Exactly. It's going to be a long time (if ever) until you can go fully wallet-free. Up until that point, the concept is pointless. I like the security advance of Apple Pay, but aside from that it's mostly a novelty. (I've been able to just tap my card for years here in most places in Canada... which is possibly easier.)

I just want digital ID so I can be confident that my deliveries won't get stolen. Signatures and pictures are horrible forms of identification.

How does that work? Most of the delivery companies now just drop boxes on the back steps or porch... more like zero ID. :) They even left a laptop we recently ordered that I'm pretty sure was 'signature only'.

I'm not convinced that I'll ever completely ditch my wallet. There are still many cash only places; I was at farmers market this morning and 90% of the stands are cash only.

And, I'm not sure it's even a good idea to move to a cashless society. As much as I hate dealing with cash, it's also kind of scary to be in a system where your ability to survive could be push-button or glitch disabled.

Also, you are SOL if you exclusively rely on your phone and the battery dies. No ID, no payment options. I'd still keep a physical ID and at least some cash on me.

Yea, for example, I have to carry ID and it's not electronic. Slightly smaller wallet is really the only advantage.

Also, in the unlikely event of some sort of medical mishap or accident, having a physical ID may help first responders identify you quicker than trying to find/unlock your phone to find out who you are. ... We don't live in a perfect world where a digital ID would be reliable. The best way of doing this would actually be an implant ...

Wanna bet that's where we're headed? Talk about scary!
 
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Nice idea. Too bad my FCU is still stuck in the stone-age. No Apple Pay support yet. Someday... Someday...
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How does that work? Most of the delivery companies now just drop boxes on the back steps or porch... more like zero ID. :) They even left a laptop we recently ordered that I'm pretty sure was 'signature only'.
Sometimes I wonder if the delivery guys just sign for it themselves, figuring nobody'll care. They might be right too, assuming it's not stolen.
 
Sometimes I wonder if the delivery guys just sign for it themselves, figuring nobody'll care. They might be right too, assuming it's not stolen.

It seems more universal than a particular driver though, so I'm guessing maybe it's been kind of an unwritten shift in policy? It might save enough in costs to cover losses... if they even have to cover them. Or, maybe they actually track locations and routes that are deemed 'safe enough' to leave things?
 
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A decent solution to wanting to lose the wallet but still needing to have a few cards is the wallet case. We use these hard cases with a door on the back that opens to allow 2 or 3 cards. Doesn't add much thickness past a typical case and allows you to bring those cards you can't really store on the phone - say drivers license, transit pass and maybe a backup credit card.

we stupid Americans
Speak for yourself.
 
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Gas pumps. Please God or Rockefeller put Apple Pay on the gas pumps. I've been skimmed twice at gas pumps in the last two months and have had to go back to cash to buy gas now. What a huge PITA
Arco has the readers on the pumps in California. Though at the gas stations by me, I have to remember which ones it actually works on which is like 2.
 
It seems more universal than a particular driver though, so I'm guessing maybe it's been kind of an unwritten shift in policy? It might save enough in costs to cover losses... if they even have to cover them. Or, maybe they actually track locations and routes that are deemed 'safe enough' to leave things?
Well, I've never seen a neighborhood that's truly safe. When a neighborhood seems safe, thieves start targeting it. I thought the one exception was the gated neighborhood of Bel Air, but I know there's been at least one high profile home invasion there.
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JUST STICK AN NFC READER ON THE PUMPS LIKE THEY'VE HAD IN EUROPE FOR 20 YEARS!!! God why do we stupid Americans put up with this crap?
Cause we all have credit cards, and those work fine without hassle. Pumping gas takes 10 minutes already. Why do you need to save 0.5 seconds with an NFC payment?
 
Cause we all have credit cards, and those work fine without hassle. Pumping gas takes 10 minutes already. Why do you need to save 0.5 seconds with an NFC payment?
You are ignoring the fact that NFC transactions and EMV technology is far more difficult to skim credit card information. Sure, the NFC transactions can be speedier, but the most important benefit to the consumer is increased security.
 
Basically Apple is promoting sugar, cafeine, alcohol and fat, all whilst undergoing the process of loosing your possessions - possibly your ID-card, credit card and driving license.

Rock & roll!
 
Arco has the readers on the pumps in California. Though at the gas stations by me, I have to remember which ones it actually works on which is like 2.

That's awesome!!!! Maybe there's hope.
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Well, I've never seen a neighborhood that's truly safe. When a neighborhood seems safe, thieves start targeting it. I thought the one exception was the gated neighborhood of Bel Air, but I know there's been at least one high profile home invasion there.
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Cause we all have credit cards, and those work fine without hassle. Pumping gas takes 10 minutes already. Why do you need to save 0.5 seconds with an NFC payment?

You missed my previous post. I've been skimmed twice at gas stations in the last two months.
 
A decent solution to wanting to lose the wallet but still needing to have a few cards is the wallet case. We use these hard cases with a door on the back that opens to allow 2 or 3 cards.

Yea, a friend raves about the Speck CandyShell Card cases. I'll probably give one of those a try one of these days, as I think I could get it down to 2 or 3 cards (and that cases looks like it would really hang onto them good).

Speak for yourself.

Hehe. I think the context was for being willing to put up with such antiquated, insecure systems. But, in general, sadly, I think the statement stands on it's own, increasingly. That said, it also seems to apply to most of the 'West' equally, if not more so. :(

Well, I've never seen a neighborhood that's truly safe. When a neighborhood seems safe, thieves start targeting it.

For sure. When we bought our house, that was a bit of a concern because we're on the edge of a 'sketchy' area. We've had a car broken into once in a couple of years, but in the 'good' parts town, they've had even more problems.

I'm just wondering if they have some algos that track packages getting stolen in areas, and unless it's over some percent, the driver can just drop it off and leave.

Basically Apple is promoting sugar, cafeine, alcohol and fat ...

Hey, 2 out of 4 ain't bad. :)
 
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