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Was on the fence on waiting for M2 Mini v M1 Max Studio. Studio was more and M2 will undoubtedly be faster in single core, the extra ports and higher top end in the Max Studio mean it was likely the smarter buy. Who knows when the M2 Mini would be out anyway.
 
Dang, was really hoping for 32GB memory. That means M2 Mac mini will be out of the question. Will hang onto my 2017 iMac a few more years I guess.
 
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The performance gains aren't huge. This is just to get people to buy the new Air.

If you're on M1 Pro or higher it isn't an upgrade.
I'm considering the 14" MBP with 16 GB RAM and 8-core M1 Pro chip. Is there a breakdown of performance/comparisons yet?

Also wanting the 14" for the extra ports, but also trying to make the smartest long-term decision. I had my last Mac for over a decade and want to get the same mileage out of whichever one I go with next.
 
I am still on PC side now.... and enjoying the M1 happening from the sideline. I am thinking about joining Apple again with an M2 later this year. I am an digital painter, working in Photoshop, procreate, blender, affinity designer and sketchbook. Sometimes big files. Sometimes 3D stuff. Now, the M series are (so far) not the best bet for 3D stuff.. it is still so much faster than my 6-core 6800k + gtx1070 and 32gb ram. I think a M2 pro with 32 wil crush my machine in every way. And that maybe under a max workload of 30watt. OMG
 
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This is great, though gotta wonder if/when we'll see an Apple Silicon Mac Pro?
It makes more sense now - they did say the M1 Ultra was the last of the M1 family. So Mac Pro is going to be M2 based - two M2 Ultras put together? So if not late this year then 2023.
 
Now this is just a great all-rounder chip!
The M1 was a breakthrough and I used it for animation (perhaps corageously) from december 2020 to april 2021, and I felt it only needed a little more power and ram to become the perfect allrounder.

The M2 with 24GB of ram is now the perfect soft spot for a light machine, capable of some light productivity.
 
Seeing 24 GB of RAM immediately made me jump to a 192-bit memory bus over the previous 128-bit one. Nothing too secret there.

Otherwise we get the expected performance gains "only if you are within the designated benchmarks". The abuse of GPU acceleration is obvious.
 
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It makes more sense now - they did say the M1 Ultra was the last of the M1 family. So Mac Pro is going to be M2 based - two M2 Ultras put together? So if not late this year then 2023.
That's what I can quite forsee yet...
Realistically the next non iPhone event will be in october, and I don't see apple releasing the M2 Pro, M2 Max and M2 Ultra on the same event.

I'm thinking we'll see the M2 Pro/Max refreshes for the macbooks and a teaser for the mac pro, only to be acually released in spring 2023 with the M2 Ultra.

Remember we also still need to see a high end mac mini, and it'll probably be released in october possibly with a 27" M2 version of the iMac
 
Seeing 24 GB of RAM immediately made me jump to a 192-bit memory bus over the previous 128-bit one. Nothing too secret there.

Otherwise we get the expected performance gains "only if you are within the designated benchmarks". The abuse of GPU acceleration is obvious.
There is nothing special about 24GB as max and it depends on the density and arrangement of the sub chips. As long as the chips are paired and identical it doesn't really matter what the size they are.

They could easily have 12GB Ram sticks. You never see them because people are more comfortable with multiples of 8GB right now but it doesn't mean it isn't technically possible.

Memory bus doesn't apply to the amount of RAM in the chips -- it just means that there are more "wires" connecting the RAM to the other parts of the CPU. The minimums are probably less about technical limitations of the memory bus and more about increasing the value of the chip requiring 32GB minimum for a M1 MAX. Besides with 16GB a Max would have a difficult time filling the GPUs. (Again not a limitation of the memory bus, but the overall design of the system).
 
So the rumoured M1.5. Same node, 18% bump which is even less than A14 to A15 perf improvement (about 22%, and both were 5nm like M2), just 3 months before A16 is here, couldn't they just skip it based on A15 at all?. And before anyone says M1 is good enough, some professionals can't have enough cores for working and reendering, and this M2 is what M2 Max, Pro and Ultra will be based on in 2023.
Exactly. This is NOT the M2 chip Apple wanted to ship, you are correct in calling it the M1.5
Limited Mac models will get this M1.5 and the rest will wait for the M3. Marketing can name things whatever they want, so looks like the delayed M2 will end up being the M3.
As mentioned elsewhere, this complicates the Mac product lineup, but "Complication" is what happens when things don't go to plan. This is a clear case of failure. Now the Apple Silicon Mac Pro is undeniably LATE. This gets messy until the delayed M3 shows up.
Now Apple gets to muddle through an (assumed but obvious) "Osborne Effect" period while customers wait for the M3. Who is going to buy a higher end "Pro" laptop when the cheaper one runs a chip with a higher number?
Apple not only bet the farm on China, they built the farm IN China. The chickens have come home to roost.
 
A slide said "18%" (CPU) - we'll see what that translates to.
Hmm - Hang on a sec - that "CPU perf increase of 18%" was for multicore - so does that mean it's an average of improvements in high-perf and high-efficiency cores? Maybe the greater the efficiency-core improvement, the lower any 'single-core' benchmark might be...
 
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