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Sadly, M2 Air is too expensive in Europe, since it's been priced based on latest FX rate, but the M1 and M1 Pro/Max machines still sell priced on older FX rate.

For comparison:
M2 Air 8/256 is ~1500 EUR and 8/512 is ~1900 EUR with no deals yet.
MBP 14 base model 16/512 is ~2250 EUR and you could find deals for as low as 2000 EUR in some places (e.g. on Italian Amazon with IT keyboard).

So MBP 14 for now is a much better buy in Europe (at least until there are deals for M2 or M1 price is raised).
 
I think consolidating the NAND flash into one chip is the problem. You can only have so much throughput on a chip; having two (or more) in parallel can increase the overall transfer speed, up to a point of course.

If this is the case in the M2 Air; having only one chip instead of two, how much of a difference will it make to the average consumer using the Air for general purpose applications?
None whatsoever.
 
May exchange my m1 pro 16 for this. Need something a bit more portable

Just have both like me lol. I sold my iPad Pro for this release as my more portable device. Given that it is actually lighter and thinner than the 12.9" once you bundle the magic keyboard.
 
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Sadly, M2 Air is too expensive in Europe, since it's been priced based on latest FX rate, but the M1 and M1 Pro/Max machines still sell priced on older FX rate.

For comparison:
M2 Air 8/256 is ~1500 EUR and 8/512 is ~1900 EUR with no deals yet.
MBP 14 base model 16/512 is ~2250 EUR and you could find deals for as low as 2000 EUR in some places (e.g. on Italian Amazon with IT keyboard).

So MBP 14 for now is a much better buy in Europe (at least until there are deals for M2 or M1 price is raised).
Indeed, an Air 8/10 core 16 GB 512 GB costs €2099 which is only €150 less than a 14" Pro.
 
Super excited about this, I am finally replacing my 2013 MBPr (the speakers are blown and none of the ports on the right side work).

Question: Does anyone know how quickly Costco will get these in? I want to do a custom order and it would be awesome to save $100 at Costco, but I don't know when I would be able to order it from Costco. (May just buy one from Apple, and if one becomes available from Costco within Apple's return window I can return it.)
 
Fr.1705 ($1755) for an air with 8GB RAM. Next!

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Giving up my iPad Pro 12.9 with Magic Keyboard, also. I’m tired of working with the 2nd runner up UI behind MacOS and iPhoneOS for most applications. Some iPadOS interfaces are just blown-up versions of the iPhoneOS UI, some are locked into portrait mode which looks ridiculous if you are using a keyboard, and some just don’t work. Even major apps like Amazon have incredibly annoying quirks like cursors that dart away from some buttons if you hover over them (like “Orders”). Some of these iPadOS apps have literally not been updated in several years.

The web-based application interface that I use at work has a couple screens that will not initially scroll in landscape so I have to grab the iPad/Magic Keyboard and tilt it to the right to release the scrolling. It’s so stupid-looking when you are in a meeting.
 
If this is the case in the M2 Air; having only one chip instead of two, how much of a difference will it make to the average consumer using the Air for general purpose applications?

My honest thoughts, not much for an average consumer. I think if you have a bug workflow, you might want to consider more storage. Checking emails, creating documents, spreadsheets and other light productivity work shouldn’t be an issue for those where time isn’t money. Still think it will sell very well, base model included.
 
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It is reasonable to expect that the Air will have the exact same SSD situation as the MBP. Why wouldn't it?
I'm not saying they won't. But I certainly hope they'll consider NOT doing it.
Apple for some reason decided to downgrade from using two NAND chips of flash memory for the SSD in the 256GB M1 MBA/MBP to a single NAND chip for the 256GB M2 MBP resulting in significantly reduced performance. While most people likely won't notice the reduction in storage speed directly, it causes the machine to perform noticeably (MUCH) worse in memory bound scenarios when it has to page to the SSD. This is something regular users could very easily run, and I'm honestly pretty surprised Apple thought it was ok to release the MBP in that state.

This decision is honestly pretty unacceptable given the price of these laptops, and the penny pinching Apple already does (256GB SSD with 8GB of Ram in a premium laptop in 2022 is a joke.)
 
So 8CPU/8GPU/8GB/256GB and 8CPU/10GPU/8GB/512GB are the ones listed in the Apple Store. Does that mean that any 16GB RAM is a build-to-order configuration and not deliverable next week?
it'll be bto but those configurations are probably ready to go. i ordered a bto m1 mbp the day it was announced and it arrived on my doorstep the day before offically on sale.
 
This means my 19 month old Space Gray 16 GB/1 TB/8 CPU Core M1 MacBook Air is going to be up for sale on Swappa soon. I wonder if 24 GB M2 MacBook Airs will ship by Friday the 15th?

Edit: Apple will give me $460 for my MBA? They sell the same thing refurbished for $1399. Nice profit there for Apple. Hard no.
 
I hope the review embargo is lifted before pre-orders open :rolleyes:

Wait for those to land and you will probably find you have another month to wait for delivery!
 
So 8CPU/8GPU/8GB/256GB and 8CPU/10GPU/8GB/512GB are the ones listed in the Apple Store. Does that mean that any 16GB RAM is a build-to-order configuration and not deliverable next week?
Nobody knows until the site goes live.

Apple Stores usually stock a BTO option too.
 
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It will bite those consumers in the future since the base model only have 8GB of RAM, and swapping will occur more often. The slower SSD will impact overall performance. Consumer will then think their mac slows down and decide to upgrade sooner than they would need to. Win for Apple.
I'd put money on it that the sort of person whose workload can be done on an 8GB machine will never notice any swapping on an Apple Silicon machine. Outside of this forum, lots of people have been getting all their work done on Macs with 8GB of RAM quite happily for many years and will continue to do so for many years to come.
 
Want the Midnight but hate finger prints. Probably will go for Silver as my skin seems to melt paint finishes.

I'd actually prefer the 14" MBP, with student discount the 16GB 1TB config are close in price - but reports of PWM issues from those who are sensitive has me staring clear of the Mini Led screen. Air is next best option me thinks.
 
I'm very curious to see how that awesome new midnight color holds up. I noticed what looked like some scratches around the ports at the introduction where some tech YouTubers were filming display models.
 
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We will see if this model is truly trendy rather than being only MacRumors forum popular.

Given M2 MacBook Pro's slow SSD and overheating issue (Apple never put a better cooling in their laptops), it would be interesting to both see the benchmark results, "real-life" tests, as well as forum reports.
Great point. There's a big difference between a product being popular/desirable among a few dozen/hundred of us on forums and the millions of customers Apple ultimately sells to.

The Air started as a niche product with a high price and (probably) lower volumes, but lately it's been their most popular Mac. The delay from June 6 announcement to July 15 availability (and the window to have released it even later in July) hopefully means Apple will have production at a point where they want it. This might still mean long lead times, especially for certain configurations, but I wouldn't be surprised if base configurations of certain colors were available to those who check store stock or are patient enough to order and wait through the summer-early fall timeline.
 
Too small for your computer. I'm pretty happy 13" is still an option for something I'm schlepping around.
Yeah, when the rumors of a 15-inch version of this generation os MacBook Air started I measured my desk and my laptop bag, and concluded that this size chassis, whether it fits a 13- or 14-inch screen, is right for me.
 
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