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Apple Announces MacBook Pro Models With M4 Pro and M4 Max Chips, Thunderbolt 5 Support, and More

shft_cmd_w said:
I'm not new to Mac, but new to the m-series; just pick up a new (base) m3 mbp. There's always the discussion about how many screens can be powered from the machine. But does no-one use docks? I have a usb-c dock (powered by the mains) and I'm using 2 external displays + the built-in. The dock part #
Anyway, I suppose one could get a base m4 and still have multi monitor support if they felt they wanted it, without splurging on a more expensive mb(p).
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That dock uses DisplayLink, that's not the same thing as a true native display controller.
 
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While Apple lists how many 6k displays can be used, I wonder if it will be possible to connect two 5k studio displays to a single Thunderbolt 5 port (using a hub) now that the bandwidth more than supports the data requirements.

I’d love to be able to connect my three 5k displays without having to plug in three separate cables.
 
Kier-XF said:
While Apple lists how many 6k displays can be used, I wonder if it will be possible to connect two 5k studio displays to a single Thunderbolt 5 port (using a hub) now that the bandwidth more than supports the data requirements.

I’d love to be able to connect my three 5k displays without having to plug in three separate cables.
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This is already possible on TS4 with like a Caldigit TS4 Dock or a cheaper TS4 Hub since M1 Pro. TB5 allows for 3 monitors with a TB5 dock as shown in the video presentation..... The only issue is TB5 docks are hard to find and still coming out. (Hyper and UGreen e.g)
 
Hm, I thought about buying a MacBook Air 15" 8/10/16 witg 16GB Ram and 1 TB SSD in the last days to replace my old Intel Macbook Pro from 2018.
Or should I better go with a base M4 10/10/16 with 16GB RAM and 1TB SSD ? The price difference is 70 € and the Pro seems to bet the better all-in-one-package.
More Thunderbolt-Ports, SDXC and HDMI, better display, weight difference seems negligible and 15" vs 14" should also be ok.
What do you think ?
 
AppelGeenyus said:
Wifi 7 was finalised in January,
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My PC has wifi 7. Makes no ****ing difference because my router isn't wifi 7 and if it was my internet wouldnt be faster.

AppelGeenyus said:
it’s literally in the latest iPhone. OLED displays have been in various products for years,
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So? MBP displays still rock without the need for OLED and if you go for the nano option OLED has no benefit.

There are people who still use Intel and M1 Macs. The new M4s are a huge upgrade for them in every way, every port, every component. When you cry online about computers keep in mind that the majority of people upgrading are not doing incremental upgrades. They are doing big upgrades and they aren't going to sit on their hands and wait longer just because tech nerds on the internet told them to.
 
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Does anyone has a feeling that the M4 Pro is a binned and chopped M4 Max like it was in the M1 and M2 families and not it’s own design like the M3 Pro?
 
amenotef said:
Also 100€ reduction in Spain for some models. Example "M4 Pro" model is 2450€ and "M3 Pro" model was 2550€. Convinced me to pull the trigger.
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Yeah, it’s very tempting. I’ve decided I’ll probably go with the new M4 Mini instead though, as the savings (less than half the price of a similarly specced MBP) will allow me to buy some additional kit on my list.

If Apple hadn’t offered such a ludicrously low trade-in for my M1 Mini though, I would have bought the MBP.
 
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RigSatMe said:
It takes around 2-3 years, mostly with static pictures. Just read reviews about any OLED tvs and other gadgets with OLED screens. OLED has organic nature and burn-in is just a matter of time. The one can’t be skipped.
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My wonderful, expensive LG OLED TV had burn in just over a year. Burn In excluded from warranty of course. Last OLED TV for me. They do look great but I'm not getting chumped again.
 
Looking for a little buying advice, if anyone has a moment. I'm an average user, not doing any video editing or heavy gaming (though once in awhile when I get bored I might play the Sims or Civilizations - but that is very rare). My aim is longevity of use before the thing makes me want to tear my hair out. I'm typing this right now on a late 2017 3.1 GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i5 with 16 GB memory, and I am now getting to that point with this one - battery life not great anymore and occasionally want to throw it against the wall. It is therefore replacement time.

What do you guys think, does the 14-core Pro chip with memory upped to 48 GB serve my purposes better, or the lower level Max chip with 36 GB memory? I really wish you could increase the memory on the base Max chip, but that's not something they're allowing and the upper level Max chip is unfortunately a little beyond my budget for this (and probably more than I need anyway). Would greatly appreciate any guidance provided, thank you!
 
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Erindipity said:
Looking for a little buying advice, if anyone has a moment. I'm an average user, not doing any video editing or heavy gaming (though once in awhile when I get bored I might play the Sims or Civilizations - but that is very rare). My aim is longevity of use before the thing makes me want to tear my hair out. I'm typing this right now on a late 2017 3.1 GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i5, and I am now getting to that point with this one - battery life not great anymore and occasionally want to throw it against the wall. It is therefore replacement time.

What do you guys think, does the 14-core Pro chip with memory upped to 48 GB serve my purposes better, or the lower level Max chip with 36 GB memory? I really wish you could increase the memory on the base Max chip, but that's not something they're allowing and the upper level Max chip is unfortunately a little beyond my budget for this (and probably more than I need anyway). Would greatly appreciate any guidance provided, thank you!
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I think you’ll be very happy with Pro chip with 48GB. Your use cases don’t sound like something the Max is aimed at.
 
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Erindipity said:
Looking for a little buying advice, if anyone has a moment. I'm an average user, not doing any video editing or heavy gaming (though once in awhile when I get bored I might play the Sims or Civilizations - but that is very rare). My aim is longevity of use before the thing makes me want to tear my hair out. I'm typing this right now on a late 2017 3.1 GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i5 with 16 GB memory, and I am now getting to that point with this one - battery life not great anymore and occasionally want to throw it against the wall. It is therefore replacement time.

What do you guys think, does the 14-core Pro chip with memory upped to 48 GB serve my purposes better, or the lower level Max chip with 36 GB memory? I really wish you could increase the memory on the base Max chip, but that's not something they're allowing and the upper level Max chip is unfortunately a little beyond my budget for this (and probably more than I need anyway). Would greatly appreciate any guidance provided, thank you!
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Kind of in the same boat but I do edit FCP and use photo, design apps. My 2016 mbp has aged out and cant run same version of FCP as my iMac and update OS. Despite the battery life, runs well enough when I am on the road. I looked at Geekbench performance and the 14core with 48 is miles ahead of both my machines now which I find are adequate speeds.

Personally I dont think it is worth getting the highest end Mac anymore because they are going to be end of life by apple and stop getting software updates before they are too slow and unusable. Up until 2015ish I think that wasnt the case as there were such huge leaps in performance, I dont think that is the case now.

A friend of mine once said, "Why do I want to spend all that extra money for the fastest Mac when I get paid by the hour?"
 
Christopher Kim said:
Yes, it's this. Apple's choices on screen are the ones that will be standard options, and not require custom build-to-order (BTO). Although I think this is the first time we've seen 2 versions where the only difference was ram. Usually it's ram / storage, and/or upgraded cpu (eg. binned with a few cores disabled and full-fat). It's also nice that this means, down the line, more opportunities for these to be available at discounts at retailers / Amazon.
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Yes it's great that one will be able to buy the 48GB model without BTO. A little fuzzy on the nano texture screens (no pun intended) - will they require a BTO no matter what or do you think apple/retailers will stock nano versions of the standard sku's?
 
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yosh22 said:
I don´t get all the happy people, it´s only 1,2 more powerfull than the M3 Max.. that´s nothing! They need even to compare it to the M1 Max to make a X3 value looking better.. I expected more, will stay on M3 max of course.
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?? Few folks upgrade just one generation unless they under-built the RAM in the previous buy.
 
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Kier-XF said:
While Apple lists how many 6k displays can be used, I wonder if it will be possible to connect two 5k studio displays to a single Thunderbolt 5 port (using a hub) now that the bandwidth more than supports the data requirements.

I’d love to be able to connect my three 5k displays without having to plug in three separate cables.
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I have the same question, even though my displays are not (yet) 5K.
 
I just purchased two M3 Pro MacBook Pro 16 for me and wifey back in the spring of this year. We are both pleased with it after upgrading from a 2015 MacBook Pro Quad 15.4. Any M-series MacBook will be a game changer for anybody upgrading from an Intel based MacBook Pro or Air. We're good for now.
 
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lcseds said:
My wonderful, expensive LG OLED TV had burn in just over a year. Burn In excluded from warranty of course. Last OLED TV for me. They do look great but I'm not getting chumped again.
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How'd you manage that? I've been using an LG OLED as a desktop monitor since 2021 and I don't have so much as a hint of burn in.
 
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googlus said:
Hm, I thought about buying a MacBook Air 15" 8/10/16 witg 16GB Ram and 1 TB SSD in the last days to replace my old Intel Macbook Pro from 2018.
Or should I better go with a base M4 10/10/16 with 16GB RAM and 1TB SSD ? The price difference is 70 € and the Pro seems to bet the better all-in-one-package.
More Thunderbolt-Ports, SDXC and HDMI, better display, weight difference seems negligible and 15" vs 14" should also be ok.
What do you think ?
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MBP is better in every regard except weight.
 
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