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I hope that Ive does not get rid of all skeumorphism because that would be a bad direction to take. The metro UI is a perfect example of why anti-skeumorphism can lead to a confusing interface that is anything but intuitive.

If Ive goes towards a Metro style then I will not buy a single new iOS device in the future.

The last thing Apple should do is start listening too much to the critics and wannabe designers. The wannabe designers like changing things for change sake regardless of what it does for usability.
 
I guess you're not a fan of analogue?

I think there was a certain nostalgia and warmth Jobs and Forstall appreciated with the skeumorphism. I didn't think it was always implemented the best, but there were certain advantages to it - mainly identity, and a certain organic element you're not going to get with digital display.

All I'm saying is careful what you wish for with industrial minimalism for digital interface. I mean can just see it now: "All these grey boxes are boring!"

Aside from that, Forstall should have been canned for making Apple a laughing stock over Maps alone.

As much as I hate the skeumorphism in iOS and OS X, I hate the "designed by robots" feeling of Android even more.
 
Also Best Designed

This is friggen fantastic!!!

Ive will make iOS the best thing we have ever seen! :)

Not only best looking but hopefully the best designed. Jony appears to have a great passion for making hardware that is great to use and looks great. Hopefully he can do the same with software.
 
Forestall contributed a lot more to OS X and iOS than just skeumorphism. After all, who can understand OS X and iOS better than someone who worked on it when it was still NeXTSTEP?

His shoes will not be easy to fill.
 
I'm sad at Scott Forstall leaving Apple. He lead the iPhone OS from the ground. It's like they neglected his accomplishments. But I'm happy that Forstall now is Tim Cook's advisor. Tim Cook got a bad taste on things.
 
Smart timing.

I wonder if the fact that the stock market is closed for at least two days had anything to do with the timing? Whether intentional or not, this gives investors a couple of days to digest the news and it gives Apple a couple of days to leak their positive spin to their trusted bloggers and reporters.
 
Christmas came soon this year...
I have no presents for Apple... :(

That awkward moment when you realize you can't match one's presents...
No wait... I bought an iPhone 5 this year, this should do. :p

Glassed Silver:mac
 
I like some skeuomorphism.

It adds a bit of personality to some apps.

Other than Microsoft scoffing at it, what was the harm?

Ives was against it too and it appears that his side prevailed - obviously.

Apple's always used it a little bit to create friendlier interfaces (like Garageband). However, lately they've gone overboard. There comes a point when you're interfering with functionality just to implement it.

I think one of the last straws was the Lion/Mountain Lion's ugly calendar.app and terrible contacts.app.
 
Loosing Browett is a good thing, loosing Forstall could be bad, especially is he jumps ship.

Announcing it when the markets are closed, and Hurricane Sandy is impacting most of the Eastern US just smacks of Apple trying their best to bury this in the news and not take a stock hit.

These are 2 major execs, like them or not, and their departure means something for Apple. Hopefully good change, but it is nothing to ignore.

I wonder if Browett was a forced resignation. He never seemed a good fit.

Stop wondering. From an article here a week ago about Browett getting his first disbursement of 5000 shares:

"He is due 95,000 more shares of stock worth some $58 million over the next 5 years, assuming continued employment."

Why would he walk away from that voluntarily even if things weren't going so well?
 
We did try to warn people when he was appointed... :D

Yup, we were told "I think Tim Cook knows more than you" ... now it's our turn to say "We told you so".

We DID know more than Cook when it came to Browett, WE have suffered at the hands of Dixons and PC World customer service and their God awful approach to retail. Tim Cook, credit to him, despite never witnessing how bad Dixons and PC World were, made the decision to 'erase' his mistake.

Well played, Tim.
 
I recall reading an article about how Ive was in disagreement with some of Forstall's design decisions for iOS.

iOS was getting stale, so hopefully putting some new people on it will add more features and change it for the better. And I'm definitely hoping to see if Ive can relay his hardware design brilliance onto software as well :D
 
I don't know, I like the faux-leather design of Find Friends, the Podcast app, and the wooden iBooks look. It distinguishes the apps from each other and has an appealing welcoming texture. The reason I love iOS is that it doesn't look like a cheesy futuristic video game like Android. I do find the Windows Phone look fascinating but also simplistic and blocky.
 
Not only best looking but hopefully the best designed. Jony appears to have a great passion for making hardware that is great to use and looks great. Hopefully he can do the same with software.

And much of the design choices he made for the hardware were tactile.

Skeumorphism by its very nature attempts to recreate tactile.

Thus, will Johnny recreate the illusion of glass, aluminum, etc?

If not, you're going to end up with Windows 95!

Point being, I question whether he was necessarily against skeumorphism....just Forstall's more anologue-like implementation of it.
 
finally they're getting rid of this piece of **** Scott Forstall. he hasn't done anything near to impressive with iOs in like 2 years.
 
In my opinion iOS has been fairly stagnant compared to what Blackberry, for instance, are attempting to do with their email and keyboard software (admittedly it's not out yet but the demo's they have done are very exciting).

It's good that Apple has recognized that they are becoming stagnant. At least I hope that's what this means.
 
I hope that Ive does not get rid of all skeumorphism because that would be a bad direction to take. The metro UI is a perfect example of why anti-skeumorphism can lead to a confusing interface that is anything but intuitive.

If Ive goes towards a Metro style then I will not buy a single new iOS device in the future.

The last thing Apple should do is start listening too much to the critics and wannabe designers. The wannabe designers like changing things for change sake regardless of what it does for usability.
I don't think Apple will go towards a Metro-like UI. In many ways, Metro is behind the times already. It is well-suited for low-resolution displays because it is big, blocky and not detailed, but as displays become higher and higher resolution (i.e. retina displays), Metro throws away all the subtle cues that a clever designer can use to communicate with the user.

It looks very dated to me. Metro is 20 years late. It is a good match to the computational and display technology that was available in 1995. Today, we can and should do better. I expect Ive is aware of this.

The problem with apple's skeuomorphic designs is that they look like cartoons. I think Ive will get rid of that, e.g. the fake "bookshelf" in iBooks, fake card table in Game Center, fake leather in calendar. I think he will keep the subtle textures, gradients and patterns that make the UI look polished and "3D". For instance, take a look at all the subtle details in the toolbar of Safari on the rMBP.
 
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