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Apple Announces Management Changes: Scott Forstall and John Browett Out, Ive and Others Add Responsibilities
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Skeuomorphisms has been part of user interfaces for as long as there has been computers, and will be there for probably as long as there will be computers. That said, there are good and bad skeuomorphism and it's been mostly bad in OS X and iOS lately.
My mind just went boom. It's nice to see apple clearing out all the people who had terrible ideas (siri, maps) and giving other people more control.
I second what you said.
By the way I can't remember where I read this: it's Scott who foresaw the App Store.
Before the launch of the App Store, there were many people trying to install native apps on the iPhone in an unauthorised way (i.e. jailbreaking). For this reason, Scott convinced Steve to make an App Store, instead of just having web apps.
(please correct me if I'm wrong)
Only time will tell.
Of these two men, the one that may have been a mistake to let go is Forstall.
As for all of you that believe that this move is appropriate, I truly hope you are right.
Of these two men, the one that may have been a mistake to let go is Forstall.
As for all of you that believe that this move is appropriate, I truly hope you are right.
I would say that it was the 3rd party developers and jail breakers who foresaw the App Store. Hey Scott, if you're out there, thanks for pointing out the obvious.
Browett should never been hired. Scott new his days were numbered after Steve passed. Tim took too long IMO (Maps, App Store).
It shows Tim is not afraid to admit missteps, and take decisive action. Great Leadership, and future vision.
Nice reorganization. Very defined.
p.s. Any thoughts on Ron coming back to Apple Retail?
It shows Tim is not afraid to admit missteps, and take decisive action. Great Leadership, and future vision.
Nice reorganization. Very defined.
p.s. Any thoughts on Ron coming back to Apple Retail?
Forstall was one of Jobs' favorites for a reason. There would have been no iOS app store without him. Jobs originally wanted a closed system, but it was Forstall that kept arguing with him about the benefits of bringing in third party developers, and finally Steve agreed.
And for all the comments about skeuomorphism, it may be helpful to rememer that most of that came from Steve; Forstall merely kept it going.
I'm not saying there isn't a potential upside to having Ive manage SW along with HW, but it's not quite clear just yet that this is an unquestionable win. Sometimes it helps to keep people focused, to not spread them too thin. Ive is a remarkably capable designer, but he's only human.
1st thing to do: change that awful notes app on iOS and OS X - it's the perfect example for a stupid interface that keeps the app behind its possibilities just for the sake of fake "beauty".
Thank u! Good riddance I say!
Steve jobs would approve!
Apple ios has been stale - lets hope for change!
Well, with Jobs no longer there, I don't see that Forstall has any role now.
So evil that it made a ton of money for developers ($6.5B!). Far more than Palm ever made for PalmOS developers by not creating a centralized controlled app store, and thus letting all the independent app distribution channels fight, raise their percentages, and even go bankrupt without paying.
This is true. Jony Ive is an industrial designer, that's his field.
This is something Steve WOULD NOT HAVE done, especially with such talented people.
Forstall was there since the 90's, Steve recognised his talent and Scott along with Ive had a HUGE influence on the resurgence of Apple.
Sure Scott has made errors, but they're minimal in comparison to what's he done for the company over the years.
The hate here for Scott is totally unjustified. This would have never happened under Steve but I suppose the loss of Steve is the problem.
Steve could manage all the egos, they all listened and respected him. Steve was the guy that made everything click.
I just worry Tim won't be able to lead the team in such an efficient way.
This is the first time I'm genuinely worried about Apple's future.
I hope looking back in three years, that I'm wrong.
Lol, that sounds about right.
We've got a long time until iOS 7, I think it's entirely plausible that Ive's influence will be in there.
I am sure is he deeply upset.... with his £38 fricking million share sale on friday. Positively distraught and crying into his Wallet
Browett is finally out... Thank God! He was gonna ruin Apple retail.
As for Ive designing iOS UI... I'm excited beyond belief! Apple has just made some bold and right decisions which will lead into exciting new year!
As for Ive designing iOS UI... I'm excited beyond belief! Apple has just made some bold and right decisions which will lead into exciting new year!
Steve Jobs put Forstall where he is. I think a lot of people are celebrating something that they dont know much about. Who knows where this will lead? Forstall has been highly influential and sounds like he had Steves type of demanding personality. Yea it looks like he made some mistaked but Steve knew about every single software release we currently have that people are complaining about. This could be a good move or it could turn out to be negative. Let's hope Forstall doesnt take his abilities and knowledge to a competitor. Im sure he has a non-compete but lets hope he doesnt have an axe to grind.
I'm glad Browett is gone. For some reason he thought his new job at Apple was to turn Apple's best in the world retail model into the same model that most consumers hate. I'm surprised that someone who didn't seem to understand the Apple retail model would be given the job.
I'm not as sure about Forstall leaving, he may be difficult to work with but he's been involved in OSX since the NeXt days. He departs with an enormous amount of knowledge and experience that Apple has built their success on.
I hope Tim Cook is able to balance out all of the different personalities and competing ideas in order to keep people on at Apple. Forstall has still had many more successes than he has failures but it seems like he's better at executing other people's ideas than deciding which if his own are best.
I'm not as sure about Forstall leaving, he may be difficult to work with but he's been involved in OSX since the NeXt days. He departs with an enormous amount of knowledge and experience that Apple has built their success on.
I hope Tim Cook is able to balance out all of the different personalities and competing ideas in order to keep people on at Apple. Forstall has still had many more successes than he has failures but it seems like he's better at executing other people's ideas than deciding which if his own are best.
Explain How?
Making money for Developers?
Proving a rich choice of software for users ( and a lot of junk - nut not apples Fault that )
Money driving Devs to make better software to make more money
As opposed to googles that has been a pirate heven where devs had all but given up making any money at all until they finally code signed ( although all still piratable )
Yup positively Demonesque.
The application is fine. It is actually very good. Like the way it lets you scale and rotate the maps absolutely smoothly. When you zoom in to a higher resolution map, this is done very well. It uses a lot less data for the same display than other apps do, which is especially useful when you're not on WiFi.
Now the data that it uses leaves a lot to be desired.
No, the application is junk too. The way it handles poi icons is really badly designed, and the way it scales those icons is desperately ill thought out.
It's search process is also completely, completely broken.