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Apple finding little ways to pad profit margins in a big way, that is Tim's #1 job after all.

Ads, not including chargers and/or cables with some products. It all adds up to a lot of extra profit overall. They lied and fooled people that it was for the environment with the cables/chargers. I wonder if they can somehow spin this as something admirable and get those same fools to fall for this as well.

Edit: For those disliking this without bothering to comment back, please answer one simple question. If it is not being done for profit reasons, why wouldn't Apple just include a voucher in the box for a free cable/charger if needed?
Apple should raise the price of the iPhone with the sku that includes the free voucher.
 
It is good to see some of the people who bought into the environmental lie are coming around to at least say it is for "both reasons". Originally those people were saying it was purely for the environment so progress is being made there.
Maybe they could have a popup when someone goes to buy a charger from them for cash that says the user should take pause to consider how it will effect the environment before going through with the purchase.
 
I have a PiHole going as well, which ad-list are you using? I have 1,318,335 domains on mine. I am jealous of you having extra.
I'm sure some of them probably have dupes

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I'm sure some of them probably have dupes

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Apple isn’t forced to lower their margins. An iPhone is a discretionary purchase. The price is the price. I understand overseas rates drove the price higher for some phones, but it is what it is.
You’re missing my point. At some point Apple will lose money as people will always have a cut off at how much they are willing to pay for a phone that they want. That’s with no recession or inflation. With them the cut off always comes sooner.
 
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I’m glad I’ve trained my brain to automatically ignore ads but it is still a d*ck move by Apple.
I believe it’s also in response to developers and pundits claiming Apple’s old way prevented competition. Well now anyone can promote their App just like they can elsewhere, of course they get paid, but it still maintains privacy instead of handing it off to others. I believe ads could already be run in the apps. What would be interesting is if they compensate the app developer as if it’s from their page. They could also disallow apps from the same segment.
 
You’re missing my point. At some point Apple will lose money as people will always have a cut off at how much they are willing to pay for a phone that they want. That’s with no recession or inflation. With them the cut off always comes sooner.
Okay, they will lose money and the market will speak. People will vote with their $$$.
 
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This is peak or even post-peak Apple. The App Store is mature. The iPhone is mature. Mac OS, the iPad, and the Personal Computer are all mature. All that's left is an attempt to monetize the rest of the Apple experience which will also Googlefy the Apple experience. And Google sells a cheaper product with Android ("free").

I am saddened by the evolution of hardware and software into an always on, rent and never own, privacy is not guaranteed model. I don't want to be data for sale.
 
Let's not neglect to mention the part where they blew up Facebook and everyone else's business model on iOS ad revenue under the pretense of protecting user privacy (after having petitioned privately over many years to get a cut) before they made the decision to insert their own ads in the only app store they allow on their platform, their own. Because privacy.
 
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That's some pretty strong language. How are these ads negatively affecting you?
If I’m specifically looking for App XYZ and the top three results are three different apps then this does negatively affect me.
 
More Ads. More expensive everything. Record profits. Brilliant. I feel like we’re being taken for mugs
 
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