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Alright, so I've been browsing through these threads and such and have some questions....

1. If I had an SSD on a 15" MBP, would it rival the speeds of "all flash memory"?
2. Is the MBA 13.3" able to crunch FCP videos/editting efficiently? And would the MBP be good at it, for that matter?

we have to wait for the benchmarks from macworld and others ...

also flash memory implementation is interesting for many benchmarking sites... (aka tech sites)
 
just ordered my 11" mba and put my ipad up for sale on craigslist. this is the notebook i've been looking for

I would never give up my 64Gb ipad...IOS 4.2 is almost here...its a totally different device compared to the 11.6 inch MBA...but I do want one of the MBA...they look so awesome! Its the perfect notebook. The Ipad is the perfect tablet...especially after IOS 4.2...
 
You don't have to use the (admittedly crappy) inbuilt graphics on the core i3: The iMacs don't and plenty of PC laptops don't either. The core 2 duo ULV @ 1.4ghz has a passmark of 963 and the i3 ULV @ 1.2 Ghz has a passmark of 1196 (over 20% higher at a lower clock speed)

Then what are you going to use? Core i3 is a two chip solution. CPU, GPU, memory controller on one chip, southbridge, etc. on chip the second chip.

The Core 2 Duo and GeForce 320M combo is two chip, because the 320M integrates everything into one chip.

So for a Core i3 system to have non-Intel graphics you have to find room on that small board for a third chip.
 
The problem that Anatech hasn't seen ( because not demoed) is how much the Sandy Bridge very low power models underclock the graphics. For the new MBA 11 Apple/Intel had to go to much slower clock speed. Intel did same thing with "lower power" Core i5/7UM models. The graphics speed was chopped in 1/2 almost. Anatech is looking at graphics at full speed in Sandy Brdige demos.

you might be correct, anandtech even may be using Standard voltage CPUs (not the Low/Ultra Low Voltage CPUs)
 
Is the MBA 13" good enough to play HD video up to 1080P from YouTube or only 720P?

If you are using a very new browser and the video is encoded in H.264 encoded video then yes. That is primarily because the H.264 is being decoded on the graphics subsystem. The CPU choice doesn't matter much. Even modern Intel IGP would decode it without tons of problems.
 
The new macbook air looks cool enough, but no USB 3.0 or blu ray drive. Sorry Steve, i will not buy your Apple TV with only 720p for streaming... I want blu ray and USB 3.0!!!
 
Poor Jobs even with his pants strapped on very tight, they kept slipping on him. I think he must have lost weight cause that belt wasn't helping. Did you also see how unstable he was after getting up towards the end after the videos? This may well be his last presentation.
 
Very interesting idea. I like it.
  • $100 to upgrade to 4GB RAM. Well at least we have the option
  • If they didn't taper it off so much, could they have got bigger batteries in there for better battery life?
  • WHY CAN'T YOU UPGRADE THE PROCESSOR OF THE LOWER STORAGE MODELS? I don't need much storage, so i'd either get the 64GB 11" or 128GB 13" model, depending on how big screen I want, but i'd like to spend the $100 to upgrade the processor, but I don't have the option:mad::mad:

Jesus Ben get a life
 
Poor Jobs even with his pants strapped on very tight, they kept slipping on him. I think he must have lost weight cause that belt wasn't helping. Did you also see how unstable he was after getting up towards the end after the videos? This may well be his last presentation.


Sir Steve is immortal! He will live forever. He did good....and will be back next year to present the Ipad 2!
 
The 320m is not a discrete graphics solution. It is integrated graphics just as much as the Intel IGP is. Integrated vs. discrete is much more to do with whether using RAM for video memory or have dedicated RAM solely for graphics.

Pardon my departure from standard nomenclature. Despite the use of shared RAM, I don't care for calling nVidia graphics an integrated graphics solution as it conveys the false notion that performance is poor. Indeed, as Intel moves its own graphic solutions onto the die itself, I wonder if people will still insist on shared RAM being the sole differentiation between the graphics solutions. I think the distinction of on-die or shared package is just as important as the usage of shared RAM when describing the graphics used.

The problem that Anatech hasn't seen ( because not demoed) is how much the Sandy Bridge very low power models underclock the graphics. For the new MBA 11 Apple/Intel had to go to much slower clock speed. Intel did same thing with "lower power" Core i5/7UM models. The graphics speed was chopped in 1/2 almost. Anatech is looking at graphics at full speed in Sandy Brdige demos.

They also only saw 6 EUs at standard clocks. They didn't see the 12 EUs chips, nor did they see what effect the turbo had. With the ability to dynamically clock both the CPU and GPU as needed, I'm somewhat cautiously optimistic Sandy Bridge can offer a decent integrated solution, even in ultra-thins.

The I/O controllers need cooler also. Less but still need it. That's not going away with things like USB 3.0 and SATA III coming to those.

There's no need for active heatsink+fan cooling. That's what I was referring to.
 
How would one TODAY get software on the MBA?

its all mute when the Mac app store comes on line in early 2011..

You will never need a DVD rom drive...

Now were is the Apple TV app store? Its coming next year too...for sure.
 
Sir Steve is immortal! He will live forever. He did good....and will be back next year to present the Ipad 2!

I sure hope so but I was wondering about him and when I saw him wobble after getting up and reaching for the desk for support I said to myself uh oh. But then again maybe he's just old and has blood pressure issues.
 
Then what are you going to use? Core i3 is a two chip solution. CPU, GPU, memory controller on one chip, southbridge, etc. on chip the second chip.

The Core 2 Duo and GeForce 320M combo is two chip, because the 320M integrates everything into one chip.

So for a Core i3 system to have non-Intel graphics you have to find room on that small board for a third chip.

How about Dell's 11.6" M11x with both an i7 processor and dedicated 1GB NVIDIA GeForce GT 335M? Same footprint, and better processor and dedicated graphics card than the 11.6" air.
 
its all mute when the Mac app store comes on line in early 2011..

You will never need a DVD rom drive...

Now were is the Apple TV app store? Its coming next year too...for sure.

Doesnt matter, I want my software on my MBA TODAY. How do I do it? When the app store come online will i have to rebuy my software?

For instance, Protools. How do I get that on my AIR, Do they provide an addon drive?
 
How about Dell's 11.6" M11x with both an i7 processor and dedicated 1GB NVIDIA GeForce GT 335M? Same footprint, and better processor and dedicated graphics card than the 11.6" air.

What kind of battery life does it get running those?
 
Doesnt matter, I want my software on my MBA TODAY. How do I do it? When the app store come online will i have to rebuy my software?

For instance, Protools. How do I get that on my AIR, Do they provide an addon drive?

Probably via this or the Remote Drive option? Granted you need to actually have another computer for the latter.
 
How about Dell's 11.6" M11x with both an i7 processor and dedicated 1GB NVIDIA GeForce GT 335M? Same footprint, and better processor and dedicated graphics card than the 11.6" air.

It's also almost one and half inches thick due to increased cooling, weighs almost as much as 13" MBP yet still runs hotter and will have shorter battery life. Those are trade-offs Apple isn't willing to make.
 
It's also almost one and half inches thick due to increased cooling, yet still runs hotter and will have shorter battery life. Those are trade-offs Apple isn't willing to make.

The battery life is actually pretty great compared to the air. I thought we were discussing if it was possible to have a small footprint laptop with both i3/i5/i7 laptop with dedicated graphics... and it is possible. That said, I prefer the aesthics of the air, ill wait until they update their procesor.
 
Is the MBA 13" good enough to play HD video up to 1080P from YouTube or only 720P?

But why would you even bother getting 1080p vids? The screens are only 900 lines vertical for the 13, and 768 vertical for the 11.

Makes it a little pointless to try and get vids that are higher quality than the screen itself will let show?

Well i guess if you were going to connect it to an external display then i that would justify the need.
 
Can you bootcamp windows 7 on these?

I mean, I am a sadist... :) No seriously- I need it for school.
 
The battery life is actually pretty great compared to the air. I thought we were discussing if it was possible to have a small footprint laptop with both i3/i5/i7 laptop with dedicated graphics... and it is possible.

Footprint without other case dimensions is meaningless. Anyone could make a 2" thick 11.6 laptop with a full 35W arrandale processor. That doesn't mean it's competitive or in the same market segment as an ultra-thin.

The more apt comparison is the Vaio Z. It is 1 to 1.3" thick, 3 lbs yet packs a standard arrandale and 330M graphics. Still not ultra-thin, however. I think you need to be under an inch to be serious about claiming that title.
 
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