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Apple Announces New 14-Inch and 16-Inch MacBook Pro Models With M3 Series Chips
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I'm sorry if I don't trust Apple's Marketing Slide. Their benchmarks would never differ from real world use lol.
I can play the made up marketing slides game too. Here's their marketing spec sheet for GPU M1 Max vs M2 and FCPX. And we all saw how M2 was only like a 15% performance bump in real world tests.
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Same but for me it was 2015 Air. Love my base m2 pro and gonna rock it for next 3-4 years
Good question! I’m wondering also how far off those machines are in terms of actual performance. Feels like a bit of a shell game that Apple is playing with these small changes in the number of cores and in RAM.
I am quite happy with my M2 Pro 16 inch with a 1 TB SSD. It is blazingly fast and I got it in February long before this was even expected for 2023. I usually upgrade my macbook pro’s every 4 years. I had upgraded from my 15 inch 2018 MB Pro. I notice they do not do much comparison in the video or on store of the previous M2 Pro that I have in my 16 inch machine with the new 16 inch M3 Pro. Seem like as others stated they are going for the M1 and intel or new users as the M2 is not that much different if you are not a gamer otherwise the Ray Tracing and such would be important. So I suspect I would not see much performance difference for most things from my 8 month old M2 Pro 16 incher
I’m very happy with the M2 Max 64GB 2TB option I purchased for $3200 from the Apple Military Store back in August. It’ll keep me satisfied for a couple of generations to come.
Tim Margins strikes again
I've been meaning to upgrade from my 2020 Intel 13" MacBook Pro with Touch Bar for years.
I need that Space Black color BADLY. The leap from Intel to M3 has to be massive since I waited so long lmao
I need that Space Black color BADLY. The leap from Intel to M3 has to be massive since I waited so long lmao
All Apple Pro models (not the chip) products should start at 16gb of RAM.
Not sure what point you're trying to make. The M2 Pro and M2 Max in that exact slide you shared look about 10-15% faster than the respective M1 generation chip. Kind of disproves your point, looks like the slides are pretty accurate.
Probably already been mentioned, but isn't it weird they downgraded the 14" Pro memory to 8GB for both the $1600 and $1800 config? I realize they lowered the price, but I guess they're considering these lower-priced models the replacement for the 13" TouchBar, not necessarily giving you a break a on the new design.
Yep I am loving my M2 Pro 16 inch MacBook Pro I got early this year. I noticed they avoided any comparisons, and you cannot find any way to compare it to an equivalent M3 Pro MacBook Pro. So I suspect not that much different than Ray Tracing and such which I do not need
Was there a spot or place in store where they actually show that it is only 20 percent increase over my M2 Pro chip? Just curious not gonna make me want to update. i will wait like I did with my late 2018 Macbook Pro and wait 4 years so suspect it will be a M5 or M6 by that time LOL
If you’re going for the next 8 years, didn’t the extra 500. Better safe than sorry.
To be honest, if you're going to spend that much and want it to last practically a decade, and plan to use it for design, programming and heavy multitasking, I'd consider going all in, just for the RAM boost alone. While 36GB is plenty for now, 48GB would really give you some future-proofing and long-term breathing room. The 33% faster GPU couldn't hurt either. Just my two cents.
Edit: Something else to consider, it's possible this MacBook line may no longer be supported by new OS releases after 8 years. You could always get the lesser model now, and sell it after 4, 5, or 6 years and upgrade again. It might be wiser to not overspend on a current model, save a bit of money and just upgrade a little more often than every 8 years. For example, you can probably still get $2000+ for this after a few years, and upgrade to an M6-M7 machine at that point.
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Still no FaceID
Still no HDMI 2.1
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Yeah this alone would justify to skip it. And no WiFi7/OLED/multi-screen support either.
Here is what I think Apple is doing to keep the upgrade train going.
1. Increased the base RAM from 16Gb to 18GB.
2. Expanded on the GPU to add Raytracing, Neural engine performance.
3. 100nits more base brightness.
The above 3 features increase battery consumption significantly. How are they going to compensate for that without increasing the battery capacity?
They gut features of course. Like this...
Here is the screenshot of the CPU comparison.
1. Increased the base RAM from 16Gb to 18GB.
2. Expanded on the GPU to add Raytracing, Neural engine performance.
3. 100nits more base brightness.
The above 3 features increase battery consumption significantly. How are they going to compensate for that without increasing the battery capacity?
They gut features of course. Like this...
- Swap 2 performance cores with 2 efficiency cores.
- Remove 1 GPU core.
- Reduce memory bandwidth from 200GB/s to 150GB/s.
Here is the screenshot of the CPU comparison.
Thanks. Typing this on an 8 year old Mac running Monterey and I love this laptop but need a beefy machine for work. Hoping the M3 lasts as long as this has.
I highly doubt that, there's no way these chips will come out with zero performance gain over the previous generation, it would be a huge scandal. Apple's own numbers show clear improvements and they are always fairly accurate with their claims. I'd expect ~15% improvements in most areas, with some GPU-related benchmarks giving much bigger 30-50%+ boosts.
Totally agree. The only minus though is the 8TB limit. In 10 years’ time, entry-level computers will have 16 or 32TB, if not more. So it might be worth waiting until the M4 comes out.
