Apple Announces New 14-Inch and 16-Inch MacBook Pro Models With M3 Series Chips

[midkay]

notice how they compare m3 series chips to M1 speeds and not any mention of M2.

Its cause the M3 is not the huge boost in power we all thought.

another 20 percent increase from the last m chip.

They're always a bit conservative with claims in the keynote, but Apple's website has clear comparisons to M1 and M2, and M3 Pro/Max are easily 50-100% faster in various scenarios. Go look for yourself.

 

[Cobra Kai]

The M3 Max like 50-100% faster or more in various scenarios. See the performance comparisons on their website.

Yeah when compared to an Intel MBP or a baked potato. Notice how they barely showed how it compared to an M2?

 

[Violent_Noir]

Hey guys, quick question.

There was never a problem with the 512GB SSDs being slower it was only 256GBs?

Thinking of getting the base space black 14” with no upgrades but want to make sure.

 

[midkay]

Yeah when compared to an Intel MBP or a baked potato. Notice how they barely showed how it compared to an M2?

You're just wrong. Go check the website.

 

[Orange Bat]

Even with the comparisons to M1 they did, I’m still not convinced it’s a worthwhile upgrade to us M1 owners. My M1 Pro is still stupid fast with great battery life, the improvements seems to be in very specific workloads and not overall general speed.

The GPU upgrades are intriguing but that’s about it

I’m starting to think Apple’s going to have to the M1 obsolete before many people upgrade.

 

[itsboi]

Hey guys, quick question.

There was never a problem with the 512GB SSDs being slower it was only 256GBs?

Thinking of getting the base space black 14” with no upgrades but want to make sure.

512GB were slower on the M2 Pros compared to the previous gen.

M1 Pro: 4,900 MB/s read speed and 3,951 MB/s write speed
M2 Pro: 2,973 MB/s read speed and 3,154.5 MB/s write speed

 

[Killbynumbers]

Seems like people with m1 and lower should be upgrading

Not happening here for a few more years. I have a 2021 16" 16GB 1TB MBP and a 2020 MBA 8GB 512GB. Both are working just fine.

 

[Warped9]

Multi display connectivity—isn’t what a lot of folks wanted?

And did I miss something or have they just quietly discontinued the 13in. Pro in favour of an entry level 14 Pro with base M3?

 

[sevoneone]

Look at the 3D performance....it's WAY more than 10-15% more powerful than the M2. More like 2x. Big leap for 3D. This will make Macs a decent 3D option. Not the fastest option but a good solution if you also care about other things, like having the Mac OS, high battery life, low weight, etc. etc.

Is the performance boost only for 3D? What about other GPU accelerated tasks like video editing? How is the M3 Pro going to perform in Final Cut and Resolve? What effect is 150GB/s vs 200GB/s going to have on day to day performance of the Pro chip?

 

[Chuckeee]

Well since the Ultra is basically 2x Max. The implies the maximum Mac Pro with a M3 Ultra will probably have a maximum RAM of at least 256GB (up from 192 GB from the M2 Ultra). A modest improvement but still way short of the 1+TB from the Intel Mac Pro machines.

 

[applepotato666]

8GB of RAM STANDARD ON A $1600 MACBOOK PRO???

I can't with this damn company.

Seriously, pricing just makes no sense. The lineup they announced today means I'm not looking at a Mac for my next computer for the first time in 20 years or so which is wild to me. Sorry but my computer needs cooling. As much as they want to claim these run cool, my M1's fan is always on because I do intense stuff on it which the Air can't handle without cooking itself. Not paying 900 more for the luxury of a fan.

 

[Apple_Robert]

$1,600 starting price is a welcomed change.

Which makes it much more affordable for the typical non MR user.

 

[earthwalker]

So the M3 Pro and Max start with 18GB of RAM now, not 16.

Memory bandwidth on m3 pro is now 150gbps which is less than m2 pros 200gbps. I wonder what difference will that make? Max has same 400

 

[baryon]

Really don't understand 8 GB entry level RAM. Assuming Apple maintains OS support for 5 years, it means Apple will need to ensure the 2028 MacOS update run with 8 GB RAM to continue supporting all the M3 MBP/iMac buyers. This could easily be 2030 if support is for 6 years and the M3 MBA doesn't launch until deep into next year...

At least it forces them to keep the OS from getting bloated, which is good. But 8GB on a pro machine is silly. On the Air, sure, but if you expect to do video editing all day then no.

 

[Violent_Noir]

512GB were slower on the M2 Pros compared to the previous gen.

M1 Pro: 4,900 MB/s read speed and 3,951 MB/s write speed
M2 Pro: 2,973 MB/s read speed and 3,154.5 MB/s write speed

Ok, I was remembering the M1 Max release. Is 1TB okay?

 

[maconservative]

The takeaway I got is that people never should have bought M2. M1 was a revolution and M3 was a massive performance leap.. M2 was just a waste of money.

I upgraded from the 2015 13” MBP to the 14” MBP M2Pro. Worth every penny to me. Very happy with the purchase, no regrets.

Perspectives

 

[histeachn81]

I’m starting to think Apple’s going to have to the M1 obsolete before many people upgrade.

Eh, if they do that then they’ll be disappointed by my stubbornness.

 

[Apple_Robert]

At least it forces them to keep the OS from getting bloated, which is good. But 8GB on a pro machine is silly. On the Air, sure, but if you expect to do video editing all day then no.

I would say many people who don't do video, music creation and edits or coding don't need 16GB. Apple will sell a lot of the base models to the typical web surfer. Nothing wrong with that. That is smart business.

 

[kiranmk2]

At least it forces them to keep the OS from getting bloated, which is good. But 8GB on a pro machine is silly. On the Air, sure, but if you expect to do video editing all day then no.

As the owner of an 8 GB Mac, I'm loving it but at the same time I would rather have a forward-looking Apple rather than one focussed on boosting the bottom line in the short term.

 

[GraXXoR]

Did they drop the price $400?

The did the opposite of the iPhone 15 pro max:
Reduced base price and memory.

 

[andrewxgx]

is there a problem with the configurator or we aren’t able to get 64GB on the 30GPU cores M3 Max model lol

if that’s a limit it’s really BS

yep

it looks like 14/30 M3 Max has cut down memory bus, so only 36/96 configs are supported

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apple-announces-new-14-inch-and-16-inch-macbook-pro-models-with-m3-series-chips.2409248/page-4?post=32678997#post-32678997

 

[rjjacobson]

Why do they keep comparing to M1 instead of M2? 😂

I am thinking that it’s because the performance increase is not as much. I love my M2 Pro 16 incher

 

[Ausali]

14 inch M3 Pro​

11-Core CPU​

14-Core GPU​

18GB Unified Memory​

512GB SSD Storage $3,499 in Australia​

14 inch M2 Pro​

10-Core CPU​

16-Core GPU​

16GB Unified Memory​

512GB SSD Storage $3,199 in Australia​

M3 pro chip has​

2GB more unified Memory​

1 Core CPU but 2 core GPU less​

What’s the difference ?​

 

[fpnc]

My only real disappointment is the 36GB memory limit on the M3 Pro. That means this same limit will likely apply to next year's Mac mini. So, I guess the M3 Max is really the only "pro" system.

 

[jillpygok]

Looking at getting the M3 Max and this will be 80% for work (own business), 10% video/photo editing and 10% gaming (read Baldur's Gate 3 for a few hours a month). The options are:

Will I really miss out on a couple cores, 10 GPU cores and 12 gigs of RAM? Most of the work will be programming and general purpose design with a lot of browser tabs, Excel docs, Word docs open. Thinking the 14core machine is more than plenty. This will be the machine for the next 8 odd years, maybe longer.