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Lol right? Why would it be odd to put a product out before the holiday season? It would be odd not to, if they're ready.


What I find odd is "just" these updates on their own.

Holiday impulse buys of accessories and updated iPads would have been welcome and good!

I don't know -- just feels off.
Apple doesn't do tiny little 30 min solo line updates (especially at night) like this.

One has to admit, this was pretty different.
 
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I'll take a MBP with 14" 120Hz screen for $500 less. I know that 8GB RAM is a crime in almost 2024 but at least it's not a 60Hz screen.
At 2000 euro I think it's super fair to expect both 120 Hz and at least a measly 12GB of RAM. 8GB of RAM is about enough to watch a YouTube video on Safari. And definitely not enough to do that on Chrome. Great that they upped the base storage from 256 to 512, but I think RAM is more important.
 
No MBA announcement makes me think their strategy is what they do with iPhones... the non-Pro model gets the older processor. If you want the new processor, then you have to spend more to get the Pro model. The MBA is a phenomenal computer and should be given the M3.
The 15” MBA was just announced almost 5 months ago. That’s a little too soon. Plus they probably want to synchronize the 13” and 15” MBA release times, so it may be a while before we see the MBA’s refreshed, possibly until WWDC next year. At earliest, they’ll refresh it in March/April time frame, which would put the MBA 15” at 9-10 months old. They just did that with the MBP’s at 9 months, so it’s possible that’s the same time frame.
 
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No Face ID, No Multi Monitor Support, and only 10-15% more powerful than M2. Who's this for? lol
Look at the 3D performance....it's WAY more than 10-15% more powerful than the M2. More like 2x. Big leap for 3D. This will make Macs a decent 3D option. Not the fastest option but a good solution if you also care about other things, like having the Mac OS, high battery life, low weight, etc. etc.
 
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What I find odd is "just" these updates on their own.

Holiday impulse buys of accessories and updated iPads would have been welcome and good!

I don't know -- just feels off.
Apple doesn't do tiny little 30 min solo line updates (especially at night) like this.

One has to admit, this was pretty different.
I guess they're damned if they do, damned if they don't – people complain either way. In this case, it seems like a solid spec bump, but you seem to feel they should have waited longer for a more substantial update. Meanwhile, if they actually did that, people complain that they don't update the chips more often. *shrug*

And yes, a nighttime, spooky-themed Halloween event is certainly something new and different. You seem to be implying that's different in a bad way and "off"? Why? I felt it was fun. Not everything has to be exactly the same all the time.
 
I feel pretty good with the 16GB 13” M2 MBA I just bought a few months ago; any of this M3 like really didn’t make much of a practical dent of difference, other than the 22 hour battery life. I love my super-thin MBA form factor. No FOMO—whew.
 
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Even with the comparisons to M1 they did, I’m still not convinced it’s a worthwhile upgrade to us M1 owners. My M1 Pro is still stupid fast with great battery life, the improvements seems to be in very specific workloads and not overall general speed.

The GPU upgrades are intriguing but that’s about it
Agreed. I knew price would determine whether or not I missed the boat on the surprise M3 reveal. The M3 specs are truly impressive but a 14" base M3 Pro chip with 36GB/1TB still costs more than what I paid for a 16" M1 Max 64GB/4TB over the Summer. The new space black looks great but absolutely no buyer's remorse here. Congrats on anyone picking up a new M3 machine. Enjoy!
 
Great upgrades for sure. But will most people who already own the M1 Pro even see much of a difference? I can't imagine it being much faster than what I already have for a lighter user such as myself.
No big difference. One key thing which hasn't changed at all is that all these M3 machines are running Thunderbolt 4. So the mythical 5K, 120Hz Promotion screen is still some way off. Hopefully M4 and above will have the newly announced Thunderbolt 5, which will be a game changer for peripherals.
Another thing is the death of the standard 1 TB storage option, which made it possible to get a relatively cheap 16/1TB configuration. Everything on 512 now...
 
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The 15” MBA was just announced almost 5 months ago. That’s a little too soon. Plus they probably want to synchronize the 13” and 15” MBA release times, so it may be a while before we see the MBA’s refreshed, possibly until WWDC next year. At earliest, they’ll refresh it in March/April time frame, which would put the MBA 15” at 9-10 months old. They just did that with the MBP’s at 9 months, so it’s possible that’s the same time frame.
That makes sense. I hope they will release them sooner than WWDC, but who knows?
 
Absolutely nothing special, 20% boost.
The touch bar was still keeping me with macs, but now that is discontinued i can finally move on to a gaming Asus laptop. Lol I already have asus zephyrus duo in shopping basket for 3 days now😂
The M3 Max like 50-100% faster or more in various scenarios. See the performance comparisons on their website.
 
Is anyone familiar with the Apple holiday extended return policy? If I order one today and the extended period starts a few days later, does the item still qualify for extended return period? Thanks
 
Absolutely nothing special, 20% boost.
The touch bar was still keeping me with macs, but now that is discontinued i can finally move on to a gaming Asus laptop. Lol I already have asus zephyrus duo in shopping basket for 3 days now😂
Look at 3D performance. Much more than 20% boost...
 
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I went for a refurb M2 max 96gb and i feel pretty good on keeping it. honestly all i'm seeing is the m3 can maybe outperform the m2 max by 20 to 30% cpu wise but thats about it. no other advantage? for what i do in the music world, M2 MAX and even m1 max was plenty. The only thing that would have made me think about upgrading is if they gave us Thunderbolt 5 and 4 of them on the macbook...Yep going to wait it out until that actually happens. that will be the upgrade that would make a difference in my world.
 
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