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Apple Announces New 4-Inch iPhone SE Starting at $399

Benjamin Frost said:
No 128GB.

Same giant bezels.

Wish Apple would give us a flagship 4" iPhone. Hanging onto my iPhone 5 for another year. :(

This keynote...protruding camera on the iPad? Ridiculous. Starting with 15 minutes of research and health was worthy, but incredibly boring. Only Phil Schiller exuded any appreciable enthusiasm. The Apple Watch is obviously selling badly; no sales figures and a 20% price drop. The iPad has been increased in price by 20%; just what is needed in the face of 8 quarters of plummeting sales. Shares are down post-keynote.

I find the death of Apple painful to watch. All good things come to an end, I guess. I'm grateful to Steve Jobs and all who worked with him for his amazing products.
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So you complain about the bezels and make that a reason to stick with another phone with the same exact bezels? What thing about the iPhone SE is worse than your iPhone 5?
 
Very weak of Apple to discountinue the 5S instead of lowering the price and actually being competitive in the emerging/post-communist society market. The SE 16GB is about $550 in Europe, what a joke.
 
agsystems said:
yea - I am completely blown away - sounds like they are taking a blood bath on margins on this model.
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Agree, the margins will be lower. This model tells me that Apple is getting pressure/pushback on the selling price of the iPhone.
 
Ternary said:
Think we'll be able to use our iPhone 5/5s cases for this? I know MacRumors had a article on this, but this final SE design doesn't look like it has rounded edges.
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Yes they work.
Apple sells new iPhone SE cases that are reportedly compatible with the 5S
 
SteveW928 said:
4k is for editing for now (maybe even long-term). The reason is that outside a few high-end home theatre setups, 4K is simply not necessary from the viewing point of view. You've got to get over 60" display size and be relatively close for 4K to make much of a difference. The main reason to buy a 4K display right now is for non-resolution related advantages.

Then there is the content problem. Hardly anything is 4K, and unless the telco monopolies are broken, we'll not have good enough internet to really stream 4K anyway (heck, we can't even stream good 1080p yet... not even CLOSE).

I'm sure it will happen one day. *Maybe* we'll move to over-60" being typical for displays, but as homes get smaller, I'm kind of wondering about that one. And, as more consumers buy 4K, I suppose there will be pressure to make everything 4K, just because. But, Apple probably isn't going to be an early adopter of that kind of move. They usually don't do the 'just because' type fads (or, at least they traditionally haven't).
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Ok - then it really shouldn't be bragging point for them. They barely offer any way to view the content. Sure it's future proofing - but way into their product future. On the flip side - you can edit it (like you said) and watch it via several of their competitors products... Which seems a bit odd.
 
shadyman said:
Exactly! Design is surely a matter of taste, but the iPhone 5 design is timeless, in my opinion. Therefore, it's not "backwards" just because it was introduced a few years ago.
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My favorite is still the 4/4S. The original was great too, but the 6/6+/6S/6S+ sort of built upon that.

3G/3GS were the dark ages lol
 
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Benjamin Frost said:
This keynote...protruding camera on the iPad? Ridiculous.
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Yeah, here's a glaring design flaw - you pull out your new smaller iPad Pro and Apple Pencil to do a quick sketch on a table. However, the camera bump on the back of the iPad Pro keeps the iPad rocking back and forward every time you push down on the Apple Pencil.

But that camera bump makes the device 0.5-1mm thinner!!!! DESIGN GENIUS!!!

This keynote was painful to watch. This is The New Apple that believes a couple of watchbands are worth of a keynote.... and that rose gold everything is now a design feature - worthy of a round of applause.
 
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Sasparilla said:
This looks great and the price is much better than I thought they were going to do. Apple will sell a ton of these.
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Hope so! So long as it's 2GB of RAM... for many (at least the informed) that will be a deal-breaker if not. But, as most aren't informed, maybe it wouldn't matter.

The only sad thing is we're still not going to solve the 'size' mystery, as if it does sell well, people will say it's the price, not that it's 4". I was hoping for an equivalent 4" iPhone in the lineup, so we could really see the % breakdown by size. But, that's more my little experiment... so long as this is 2GB RAM, it looks like a good solid product.

metsjetsfan said:
So the outer design of the se is same as 5S? A 3 year old design? They will keep this for 2 yrs atleast so it will be a five yr old design
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I don't know how long they will 'keep it'... maybe this model will now be a yearly update around this time in the product cycle? (hopefully)

But, IMO, this is actually a move back towards a better design. The 6 & 6s look cheaper to me. There's nothing wrong with going back to excellent design. The whole fascination with anything new and goofy is called, fashion.
 
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So.. This looks like it would be an outstanding work phone, and correct me if I am wrong, but its quicker than my iPhone 6?
 
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legacyb4 said:
Wonder if this a sign of the demise of the numbering system for iPhone models, finally.

I could see Apple shifting to iPhone Pro, iPhone, and iPhone SE as the naming system going forward...
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I actually like the numbering system. I prefer the way the Galaxy S line has kept it simple and straightforward. 1 through 7. Apple on the other hand 1)iPhone, 2)iPhone 3G, 3)iPhone 3GS... the only one that ever made sense was 4)iPhone 4, and then we lost it again, 5)iPhone 4S, 6)iPhone 5, 7)iPhone 5S, 8)iPhone 6, 9)iPhone 6S.

And the iPad system is even worse:
1)iPad, 2)iPad 2, 3)The New iPad, 4)iPad with Retina Display, 5)iPad Air, 6)iPad Air 2, 7)iPad Pro

I own a "New iPad" from 4 or 5 years ago.
 
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EvoXOhio said:
Then you are wearing jeans that are too tight. I have no issues at all whether I am wearing jeans, slacks, shorts, etc.
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I'm over 6' and just not hip enough to wear skinny jeans ;) I bought a 6S and found it uncomfortable, so I returned it. So again, glad I can get a new iPhone that fits comfortably in my front pocket. I just hope it has the 2GB of memory - I don't much care about 3D touch, I just want longevity out of the phone and I'd be a bit hesitant if Apple couldn't find "room" for the extra GB.
 
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petsounds said:
Really disappointing. They've announced this now to make it look like the SE is current, but when the iPhone 7 is announced it'll instantly be a gen behind. I do not want a small phone that gets the tech leftovers.
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And it will be $250 cheaper than the iPhone 7.
 
AutoUnion39 said:
My favorite is still the 4/4S. The original was great too, but the 6/6+/6S/6S+ sort of built upon that.

3G/3GS were the dark ages lol
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oh, yes! The 4 was mesmerizing back then!

"but the 6/6+/6S/6S+ sort of built upon that" - can you explain? I don't see any similarities between those designs :O
 
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