Apple Announces New Apple TV 4K With A15 Bionic Chip and HDR10+ for $129
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danny842003
macrumors 68020
What does the interval have to do with anything?
People (not everyone) just want to move to having one cable for everything
monstermash
macrumors 6502a
Because lightning sucks, that's why. The sooner it dies a miserable death, the better.
So now people have to go out and buy a new router as well?
? No change to Wifi Support. Up to Wifi 6 (802.11ax) over 2.5 and 5.0 GHz.
Shield TV still necessary if you want to play DTS-MA or Dolby TrueHD soundtracks in their original quality. Apple TV highest quality support is for E-AC-3 (Dolby Digital Plus 7.1 surround sound), and Dolby Atmos.
Home devices network to each other rather than going through your router..
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It won't via 6e - not supported. No change from previous version - 2.5 and 5 Ghz networks up to ax.
You may have a long wait Apple justification I heard is that they need to transcode in order to support Siri.
That's for a streaming service. If you are playing an .mkv file via a program such as Infuse or Plex it can exceed 100 mbps.
As above it transcodes so it is lossy. Running a test on a ripped .mkv 4k movie (The Adams Family) with a 4150 kb/s audio track it is limited by the AppleTV app to 363 kbps in the digital copy.
If passthrough were supported we wouldn't have transcoded (lossy) audio,
Wish it did, but it doesn't do a direct stream without decoding. Supposedly they need to do this in order to support Siri. Highest quality decoder they use is E-AC-3 (Dolby Digital Plus 7.1 surround sound), and Dolby Atmos.
Many new receivers support firmware updates which could allow for new codecs.
Not supported. Decoded to E-AC-3.
cicalinarrot
macrumors 6502a
It's not because they're horribly cheap, it's to save precious space inside and make waterproofing easier, you dummy.
cashinstinct
macrumors member
Ouch!
That does not make sense that Apple will be able to sell AirTag to put on a remote which should have ability by itself.
I did request "find my remote" / U1 chip on their product feedback website.
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Probably won't change anything, at least I tried!
ScrumpyDaniel
macrumors 6502
Good to see a new Apple TV. I only upgraded mine last year once it came out that you can use HomePods with passthrough. I love it. Since I have a budget LG 4K TV, and not a Samsung there's no point in me upgrading to this model for HDR10+.
Great to see a lower starting price as well. Intrigued where they go next with the Apple TV.
Great to see a lower starting price as well. Intrigued where they go next with the Apple TV.
BuddyRich
macrumors regular
The audio bit is sorta untrue... Blurays with plain TrueHD or DTSHD tracks get unpacked to raw mulichannel LPCM and are lossless... What is lost is the height channel metadata if it is an TrueHD ATMOS or DTS:X track. You still get the lossless base TrueHD or DTS-HD in raw PCM though... it isn't sent as lossy DD+.? No change to Wifi Support. Up to Wifi 6 (802.11ax) over 2.5 and 5.0 GHz.
Shield TV still necessary if you want to play DTS-MA or Dolby TrueHD soundtracks in their original quality. Apple TV highest quality support is for E-AC-3 (Dolby Digital Plus 7.1 surround sound), and Dolby Atmos.
Home devices network to each other rather than going through your router..
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It won't via 6e - not supported. No change from previous version - 2.5 and 5 Ghz networks up to ax.
You may have a long wait Apple justification I heard is that they need to transcode in order to support Siri.
That's for a streaming service. If you are playing an .mkv file via a program such as Infuse or Plex it can exceed 100 mbps.
As above it transcodes so it is lossy. Running a test on a ripped .mkv 4k movie (The Adams Family) with a 4150 kb/s audio track it is limited by the AppleTV app to 363 kbps in the digital copy.
If passthrough were supported we wouldn't have transcoded (lossy) audio,
Wish it did, but it doesn't do a direct stream without decoding. Supposedly they need to do this in order to support Siri. Highest quality decoder they use is E-AC-3 (Dolby Digital Plus 7.1 surround sound), and Dolby Atmos.
Many new receivers support firmware updates which could allow for new codecs.
Not supported. Decoded to E-AC-3.
Thanks for you and everyone else who answered's input. What I'm hearing is that there isn't any USP other than the User Interface is much better. I haven't used a recent Apple TV, I have an LGTV and that's been, mostly, fine. Although the new Amazon Prime app is so slow. Maybe I will check out an Apple TV next time I go to an Apple store.
zorinlynx
macrumors G3
How do y'all lose the remote so easily come on it's probably in your couch cushions or somewhere near the TV.
Figured this was coming. Anytime Amazon knocks the price down significantly on an Apple product, you know it is getting updated during the next refresh.
Saying that, I still went ahead and picked up a '21 version for $109 last week. It works for us since we don't watch a lot of TV, but for the extra $20 the new one is certainly the better deal.
Saying that, I still went ahead and picked up a '21 version for $109 last week. It works for us since we don't watch a lot of TV, but for the extra $20 the new one is certainly the better deal.
mrat93
macrumors 68020
Right, but the new iPads have 6e. So I’m wondering how AirPlay mirroring would be with ATV on ethernet and iPad on 6e.
Now also wondering how performance would be with both devices on ethernet 🤔
Would the faster processor allow for less “black screen” time when going between the menus and playing the actual video/show and vice-versa? I find that delay a little annoying (I know, in the grand scheme of things it’s not a big deal, but if this tightens it up, great)
SaberCow
macrumors newbie
It has a 2.1 port so the option of vrr and 120 is there. I'll be curious to test it when it comes in and see how dynamically it scales on a 2.1 tv.
Djbencastaneda
macrumors newbie
Do you guys think it will finally have Hi-Res Audio? This is a big one for me.
Djbencastaneda
macrumors newbie
I beg to differ. I have almost 1800 movies in my library and it takes FOREVER to load and or play titles. Sucks
ThatGuyInLa
macrumors 6502a
The prior version had 2.1 but lacked the proper chip to actually do VRR and 120. They didn't realize this until after their initial marketing launch. Then, rather hilariously, had to walk that feature back. I see nothing in the tech specs for this new one that shows this is as now available. They would have listed it there. Most likely using the same chips as the prior for the HDMI. The HDMI specs don't require ALL features be implemented in order to claim something has 2.1. So, it's not all on Apple's shoulders. Having said that, I swear the ATV division is a actual room of monkeys swinging on tires.
squashedpillow
macrumors newbie
I’ll be getting a 128GB model, but it’s frustrating I need to pay for the extra storage. I’m currently using a first gen Apple TV 4K.
My bedroom TV is a Panasonic OLED, so it will be nice getting both HDR10+ and Dolby Vision.
Everything is hardwired, so I need ethernet, and I use Nanoleaf bulbs with Thread.
My bedroom TV is a Panasonic OLED, so it will be nice getting both HDR10+ and Dolby Vision.
Everything is hardwired, so I need ethernet, and I use Nanoleaf bulbs with Thread.
Lahmy88
macrumors regular
What would that allow for?
compwiz1202
macrumors 604
Not even the earlier 4K. We have that in the bedroom, and it's fine. Definitely would be good if someone gets 4K and only has ATV HD.
compwiz1202
macrumors 604
I know, I'd rather Find My than USB-C
Realityck
macrumors G5
Example
With HDMI ARC or eARC turned on, your Apple TV 4K (2nd/3rd generation) can receive high-quality audio from a supported TV and then play that audio through your wireless HomePod speakers or equivalent.