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Apple Announces New Apple TV With Siri, App Store, New User Interface and Remote
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No need -- you can be sure that Amazon is on top of this and will be working on an app.
Assuming we don't get any Apple approving crap here Plex should be all that you need to play any content thru Atv
None of that matters.
Nobody knows or cares about HDMI mumbo jumbo or HDCP mumbo jumbo.
Apple is in the press, in the media, and is what people know and what people will buy.
So the new iPhone can record and playback 4K video but you'll have to play it back on SOMEONE ELSE'S media playback box becuase Apple is too short-sighted to support their own newest iPhone.
Morons are running Apple.
Maybe in a year's time, eh? Do you honestly believe Apple will release ANOTHER new model in a year? Not a chance in HELL. The point SOME people are trying desperately to get across to the short-sighted on here is that you don't let the competition beat you to the punch. Apple has a brand new iPhone that captures video in 4K and it won't play back on their brand new AppleTV? How STUPID do you have to be at Apple to not see what an obvious BONE HEAD move that is????
AppleTV 2 released Sept 1, 2010.
AppleTV 3 released March 7, 2012
18 months and six days.
So, no, not "in a year" but in a year and a half is definitely precedented.
Like I've said, if you have a 4k boner, don't buy the new AppleTV. Wait until the next version comes out, or buy one of the many devices dues out "any day now" from other vendors. You are in a distinct (but very vocal on this board) minority, according to actual market sales data on 4k TV sets.
Well, it is how the business of making computers has always been. And for that matter pretty much all consumer electronics. What you buy today is not going to be state-of-the-art in six months. If you wait a year you can probably get it in the remainders bin for 30% off or more.
First they really haven't gone into controllers much, but let's pretend that the only controllers will be the remote that ships with it and the 200 Million iPhones sold each and every year.
While you see the only games worth playing as taking large plastic molded controllers, I don't think that is the market Apple is aiming for. Apple is the largest game system manufacturer out there, by about a factor of ten in yearly unit sales (not to mention gross revenue). And very few of those Apple game systems have what you would call "a controller" in the late-90s+ viewpoint of what a "controller" is.
What Apple knows that you apparently do not is that you don't foster a developer community by fracturing the customer base. 5% have Controller X, 20% have Controller Y, 12% have one Controller Z and 2 Controller Qs that they want to interoperate. Etc. Yes, Apple could constrain its games to the least common denominator controllers of the consoles. Or, they can provide a baseline for their developers that says every user will have a controller with this set of capabilities.
That's just the thing. Content. To me, the resolution rarely defines the content. In time, there will be compelling 4k content, by which I mean content that loses something important in translation down to 1080p etc. But that is nowhere near the case today.
But that's the philosophical case against 4k. You are saying that Apple must support it because there are some sets, and there are some content providers, and there are some set top boxes (Bluray players at least) supporting it. It is just a crap argument. Apple will support 4k when someone can walk into the store, see that the AppleTV supports 4k, bring that home, and most likely watch 4k content without a hitch. That is not the case today, and would not be even if 4k support were bolted into the AppleTV. Between bandwidth concerns, TV compatibility concerns, and frankly low-end 4k TV quality concerns, Apple might sell a few more AppleTV boxes if they said "4k" in shiny reflective letters on the box, but their brand image would suffer as a result.
Clearly it is not the box for you. For me, I'll be buying it when it is available because (1) it will provide a much faster interaction with my content (a good amount of which is tied to iTunes, but not all), (2) it will allow me to search across all the services I subscribe to, (3) it will allow the famiy to play sone Wii-level games on the TV without having to switch over to the Wii input and try to find batteries for the Wiimotes and hope the disk isn't scratched etc, (4) will likely support more services than the lower-spec box will (Amazon very likely), and (5) has a far superior playback control system compared to the competition or the lower-spec box.
My family already saves the cost of the new AppleTV in two months of cable bills we don't pay, and keeping current on AppleTVs has made that a pain-free decision since 2008. If we for whatever reason bought a 4k TV next year and that meant we had to buy a new AppleTV, another $200 then would still leave us well ahead of the game.
This is a bad thing? Well, of course, it would be awesome for us if we could get the 2020 Apple TV 6 from the Apple Store tomorrow. I'd love it, I'm sure. But an 18-24-month refresh cycle for the set top box seems quite reasonable, even at $200. That is about what we pay just for Hulu access in the same time period, as a point of comparison.
Clearly not. You would be better shopping elsewhere, I think. There are plenty of high-end audiophile and home theatre aficionado stores in the world. Find one.
The questions are a) does Apple believe that having content is necessary before they offer this capability, b) Is this an up sell feature for the next model or c) during testing, the A8 chip did not live up to their expectations.
I think last year there was some guy that got it working - don't recall what happened with that.
For cord cutting: can some company make a BT interface for an OTA HD antenna and create a tvOS app to access OTA content?
Looks better than my gen 3, but interface does not look that different.
The problem with Apple TV IMO is the lack of content. Until this is addressed I will continue to use my other devices more. Also, specs are not everything. Roku specs are not that great, but the thing is very snappy. Kind of like the iPad spec wise is much slower than even the most moderately priced Android tablets, but the iPad is faster. So I don't put to much on this, but still nice as my gen 3 is so sloooooow.
The problem with Apple TV IMO is the lack of content. Until this is addressed I will continue to use my other devices more. Also, specs are not everything. Roku specs are not that great, but the thing is very snappy. Kind of like the iPad spec wise is much slower than even the most moderately priced Android tablets, but the iPad is faster. So I don't put to much on this, but still nice as my gen 3 is so sloooooow.
They're well aware of the problem. This universal search seems to be their compromise to having the in house solution they've failed over and over again to sign. How many times have we heard the Apple TV won't be updated until they get the deal, soon as Comcast gets on board, soon as OTA stations are available, soon as... Well soon never came so here we are.
Thing is Tivo already has universal search, although it's a bit slow and a bit sloppy it does work. And you can turn services on and off as you wish.
I recently bought a Roku 3 for my mother-in-law -- fast, includes Amazon Prime, comes with voice search, and searches across all streaming services at once. Why would anyone prefer Apple TV to that, unless they have already made lots of iTunes purchases? And why would anyone starting now not be better off just subscribing to Amazon/Netflix/Hulu and getting a Roku 3, rather than the much more expensive a-la-carte iTunes + Apple TV model?
You sure about that? 4K TVs are cheaper than iPhones now.
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Oh I had a so-called "smart phone" before the iPhone. It was GARBAGE (slow as hell and damn near unusable in terms of the interface. You could barely Google and it took forever. The only good thing was a real keyboard. I maintain there was no such thing as a "smart phone" as we know them TODAY. Yes, I remember history all to well. Apple changed EVERYTHING. Of course, I'm not sure it's all good as today's generation seems to do nothing BUT smart phone (even walking in front of buses). People need to get outdoors and leave the phone in the glove compartment.
Again, that depends on exactly what you call a "smart" phone. I'd call the phones that came before the iPhone "dumb" phones. They were awful unless all you did was text (hell I maintain today that's what most people do most of the time so maybe you do have a point, after all).
Apple today announced the much-anticipated fourth-generation Apple TV at its "Hey Siri" media event in San Francisco, California. The new Apple TV was constructed on a foundation encompassing powerful hardware, a modern operating system, a new user experience with deep Siri integration, tools for developers, and most importantly, an App Store.
The Apple TV runs "tvOS," with a revamped iOS 9-style interface. Design wise, it looks similar to the existing set-top box, but it's thicker and ships with a much more advanced touch-based remote that Apple's calling the "Siri Remote." The top of the remote includes a glass touch surface for swiping through content as you would on an iPhone, and there's a built-in button for calling up Siri.
Siri integration is a key part of the new Apple TV interface, as it lets users ask Siri to bring up content. It's possible to search through multiple apps to find a TV show or movie, and at launch, supported apps include Netflix, iTunes, Hulu, HBO, and Showtime. Siri can answer questions about who's starring in a movie, bring up extraneous information like the weather outside, and ask Siri to replay parts of a movie that were missed or fast forward through content. For example, asking Siri "What did she say?" will rewind a movie 15 seconds and temporarily bring up subtitles.
Siri has a wide range of commands that will make searching for content on the Apple TV simple. You can ask Siri to "Show me New Girl," or "Find the best funny movies from the '80s."In addition to Siri integration, the other major software improvement to the Apple TV is a full App Store that includes games and popular apps. To facilitate gameplay on the Apple TV, the new remote includes an accelerometer and a gyroscope that can detect motion, much like a Wii Remote for the Nintendo Wii platform.
On stage at the event, a multiplayer version of Crossy Road was demonstrated, with one player using the Apple TV remote and another player using an iPhone as an input device. The Apple TV will support both the iPhone and the iPod touch as an input device. Apple TV and iPhone games are going to be available universally, meaning you can start a game on the iPhone and then pick it up on the Apple TV.
On stage, some upcoming apps for the Apple TV were shown off, including Netflix, HBONow, and Hulu. Game developers like Disney Interactive and Activision are working on games for the device that include "Disney Infinity 3.0" and "Guitar Hero." Harmonix is also developing a rhythm-based Wii Sports-style game that will be available exclusively on the Apple TV.
The new Apple TV also comes with brand new screen savers featuring high definition footage shot by Apple. The screen savers show off cities in slow motion video and will showcase footage based on the time of day.
Starting today, developers can access the tvOS SDK via a new Xcode beta to begin creating games and apps for the Apple TV.
Internally, the Apple TV includes a 64-bit A8 chip, with support for key iOS technologies like Metal, GameKit, and UIKit, all of which will allow developers to bring console-quality games to the device. The Apple TV is available with either 32GB or 64GB of storage, which will be used for downloading apps, and it includes Bluetooth 4.0, 801.11ac Wi-Fi with MIMO and an IR receiver. The remote works over Bluetooth 4.0, so line of sight is not required, and its battery will last for up to three months on a single charge. Recharging the remote is done through a built-in Lightning connector.
The Apple TV will begin shipping at the end of October in nearly 80 countries. It is priced at $149 for the 32GB version and $199 for the 64GB version. Apple will continue selling the existing Apple TV for $69, but that device will not support the new App Store.
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So how does the graphical power compare to the nvidia shield tv? Also why no real game controller, it seems very limited on what buttons to be able to use for most games. Swiping does not seem like a serious effort into gaming. I want it to come with a real controller. I guess you can hook up a Bluetooth controller... I'm just not seeing how this is any better than anything already out there. In fact, it seems worse haha. No 4k either. I guess all the wealthier people will start migrating to nvidia android tv because they are the ones with 4k tvs and apple will be left with the poor customers that have old 1080p tvs.
Sadly, this was clearly not the unannounced Mega-Hypersonic-Overdrive Gaming System that Mr. Market has been waiting for, so clearly Apple must be punished for not delivering its unannounced product according to the rumored/pre-announced/rumored/prevaricated schedule that Mr. Market had previously announced on Apple's behalf.
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(I said "rumored" twice on purpose.)
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Let's turn the perspective around. What good does it do for people to come on here and CHEER for the new AppleTV? How is that accomplishing anything but annoying the people who would rather not hear constant praise of Apple all day long like those Lemmings that all jump off the cliff together?
When you have the answer to that question, you will know the answer is basically the SAME to your question in reverse. If you want me to tolerate your posts, you should tolerate mine and others that disagree with you opinion.
The gist of the new AppleTV is this:
1> I like the idea of the App Store (I don't know if I'll be able to get Kodi like I want/need in order to ditch my 1st Gen AppleTV units that make me choose between 1080p/Kodi but losing the Apple interfaces and rentals, but assuming I can, that's one good thing and probably the ONLY thing that could get me to buy one.
2> The voice interface MIGHT be useful, seeing how awful trying to scroll through 5000 albums in a big list is.
3> The game "controller" (i.e. remote) is a JOKE. Any platform that wants serious gaming needs a usable controller. That remote is not it. If it wanted to be like a Wii controller, it needs a comfort grip and trigger type button, not just for oddly placed buttons and a "swipe board".
4> Dolby Atmos is the future. While Dolby Plus is an improvement over plain old Dolby Digital from 1994, it's still missing the point. It wouldn't hurt for them to support other formats like DTS and even 3D movies for that matter. If they truly want us to ditch Blu-Ray, they need to support more formats.
Apple has made almost no progress in this respect, which makes me question the POINT of a newer AppleTV. Just Siri? Just a few Apps? You can ALREADY do that by using Airplay off an iPhone or a Mac (e.g. I can play Steam games on my TV with a 2nd Gen ATV even by sending the sound/video via Airplay from my Mac and using a PS3 controller via Bluetooth to control it. WTF is this thing going to get me I can't already do via Airplay?
What happened to home automation? How about a built-in webcam for a Skype or Facetime App so I can make video calls from my living room like in Back To The Future II (that was supposed to take place this year). USB-C? NAS support in 2015??? Not a chance. You still have to have a computer on or buy your crap from the iTunes store. That's UNFORGIVABLE in 2015. Enough of the trying to force everyone to buy their crap from one vendor!
Technically speaking, Dolby Digital Plus actually supports up to 15 channels plus a wider range of bit-rates.
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I'd like to ditch my two 1st Gen units, so an App Store is the primary thing I need, assuming KODI is supported, but it's immensely disappointing for them to not support 4K when they are pushing 5K and 4K almost everywhere else including their new iPhone. It makes no sense to support 4K video recording a flipping phone, but then not be able to play it in 4K at home on the big screen television because the latest AppleTV thought 1080p woudl be good enough. Why isn't 1080p good enough for the iPhone then??? Apple needs to be CONSISTENT. You say they are about "being the best" and yet shouldn't the "best" have the "best" and latest technology (i.e. 4K) ???
