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At the risk of sounding like a fanboi, that is true of any gadget manufacturer. I've jumped around from one company to another for my 1st world comforts, and ultimately have settled on apple's walled garden as they at least seem the most reliable at releasing updates where applicable to their 2, 3, even 4-year-old devices. Sure they don't have all the same features since newer features will be built on technology that didn't exist or wasn't cost-effective. I'm a customer that no longer needs the latest and greatest and will typically purchase new old stock or a refurbed model to save some money at the expense of not having all the newest bells and whistles. Apple didn't have to enable sleep tracking on their watches older than series 5 (I think that was the newest one at the time anyway), but they did so (I had the series 2 at the time).

Now, does that mean they shouldn't add industry standards like aux ports to relevant hardware? No. If it's a speaker, it should have an aux port. I don't have any apple-made speakers (heck, I don't even have a fancy tv, lol, just a little 22" insignia). If I had the time, money and room, I'd build out an old school multimedia room with a receiver/amplifier, 8.1 surround and nice wood floor speakers. It'd be way overkill for what my degrading senses could appreciate but I'd have the serotonin release as a reward for a vinyl Pink Floyd listening session :D

My own opinion about this topic is basically at the end of your post above: separate the "smarts" from the speakers. If they are two separate parts, the rapid obsolescence of the smarts doesn't have to "throw baby out with the bathwater" for the main part of the speaker.

Then when any tech company decides it's time to deprecate the "smarts" to push new offerings, replace only the smarts if you must have them... not the entire speaker.

If this was my kind of thing, I'd favor the echo dot-type approach: smarts as one product and "dumb" speakers separate from those brains. Then I simply replace the dot-equivalent when new smarts are required.

I somewhat do this now with AppleTV or iDevice standing in as the "smarts" and then great but "dumb" speakers attached to a receiver for the sound production. I'll be replacing mobile devices smarts and AppleTVs regularly anyway. No need throwing out the speakers because the brains get too old and Apple decides it's time to push new ones.

But to each his own. These are not crazy expensive and if people are willing to roll with tossing them when Apple decides the brains should no longer be upgraded, that's their business.
 
For all those that are saying that it should be cheaper, I’d wager you’re comparing it to Google or Amazon speakers. I’d just say that, both of those sell speakers as an add on to the data collection part of their business. It’s come out that Amazon basically sells Echo products at break even or a loss. That is probably true for Google as well. That’s not sustainable. A lot of tech is like that. Roku is notorious for collecting data without users really knowing. I do think that a stereo pair of the new ones should have a bundled discount, but Apple doesn’t really do that sort of stuff. Maybe retailers will have some room to do some discounting like they do with the minis.

As a side note - used OG HomePods we’re selling for $200-$300 AFTER it got discontinued.

This product might not be for everyone. It’s ok. I love my OG HomePods, quirks and all. I have a handful of minis as well. Not replacing anything for the time being, but might replace the OG ones after I see some reviews.
Fair point!
 
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Needs to be able to connect with HomePod minis to make surround sound. Wonder how the Atmos will sound with just a stereo pair (looks like you also need a ATV4k)?
 
I have one of the original HomePods and think it sounds great. I grabbed one during a Best Buy sale for $199 and have been pleasantly surprised by it. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see one of the new ones discounted to $249 from Amazon or Best Buy within 6 months.
 
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I really don't understand why they went backwards and downgraded from 802.11ac to 802.11n and then kept Bluetooth at 5.0 and not upgrade it to 5.3. I don't even know if my router broadcasts 802.11n. Furthermore audio quality was supposed to improve in Bluetooth 5.2 with LC3.

Cheaper?
And cheaper?
And both of those may equal more margin, even at a modestly reduced price.

When Apple seems to be doing anything that doesn't make much sense through a consumer lens, it's usually about the profit.
 
I know it's not the same as what you're describing, but utilising the ARC function in the second and third-gen Apple TV 4K can provide additional flexibility. I can route my PS5 and Xbox Series S audio through them and it works a treat.
Apple TV 4K has ARC function??

It seems to me Apple heard people complaining why did they discontinue the OG HomePod, so decided to bring back without much thought again for what it needed to be?
I was hoping they would bring it back but not sure this is worth buying….tech spec for BT and Wi-Fi are behind the times. WTF

Who green lighted a product that did not listen to what people wanted the HomePod to feature. Jeez Apple arrogance. Disappointed for sure
 
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Does someone make a 12v (Firewire power) 30-pin Dock connector to 5v Lightning connector? I would like to have an older iPhone live permanently on my iPod Hi-Fi (which still works great) and use that as my HomePod of sorts. Currently I'm using a Chromecast Audio (plugged via optical in!) and play music on it from Spotify and Qobuz as well as podcasts and news via a hidden Google Home Mini and the Google Assistant. It's worked flawlessly for about 4 years.
 
The OG HomePod was fine, but ended up going with a Sonos setup around the house due to it being more open and more services available to use on them.
I did the same thing. Two Sonos Ones in a stereo pair sound quite good, are $200 cheaper than the new Homepod, and are far more versatile. Combined with the new surprisingly powerful Sonos small sub they make a great system for even a large room. I think Sonos has some of the best integrated hardware and software audio technology that I have seen in some time.
 
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That’s awesome! So when will the trade in program be announced for all of us who have original HomePods that developed the death fart just a few weeks out of warranty? Hello? Anyone there, Apple?

I think the HomePod sounded great and was very disappointed to wind up having $700 worth of paperweights. Clearly there was a widespread issue with the original and Apple should address that.
 
Apple updated Siri with iOS 14.5 to allow you to set a default third party music service. From my understanding this applies to HomePod's software and Siri as well.
I was aware that’s the case but I understand Siri still doesn’t work with YTM or Spotify on a HomePod. And it may be the case that those third parties haven’t done the work to enable it, but I don’t care about blame, only whether it works.

If someone knows different I’d love to be corrected!
 
So I assume it’ll have a better range of inputs (at least optical and 3.5mm) and detachable power cable to fix the massive oversights of the first one, right? … right?
 
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Whoo! I've been holding off on picking up a Mini for my bedroom (after decommissioning an old Echo Dot). This will be a nice replacement for the Mini in my dining room :D

Dang, no change in pricing :(
 
Im struggling to understand why the they discontinued the old Homepod, just to release a new one which is exactly the same, but with some temperature and humidity sensor and less tweeters? So strange announcement...
sounds like the rumours about a known design flaw in the old HomePods were true.
 
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