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Apple Announces New iMacs, Mac Minis, AirPort Extreme and Time Capsule

MasterNile said:
What he's saying is that while the Mac Mini can be used as a HTPC it is not marketed as one by Apple.
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Yeah, thanks for the reply btw, that's irrelevant if it marketed as such or not when the have apple tv, it's first and foremost a very fitting htpc, in many homes, and as witnessed by internet fora everywhere, so I don't see his point...is it not a good htpc or something?
 
i bit

Ordered :

Mac, 24-inch, 3.06GHz Intel Core 2 Extreme
1.0TB Serial ATA Drive 065-8048
Apple Wireless Keyboard (English) and User's Guide (English) B065-8052
Apple Wireless Mighty Mouse Z065-8061
ATI Radeon HD 4850 512MB 065-8722
COUNTRY KIT,IMAC 24-GBR B065-8055
3.06GHz Intel Core 2 Duo 065-7995
4GB 1066MHz DDR3 SDRAM - 2x2GB 065-8

Have to wait over a month for it to ship, but I think the Radeon card is worth it

I'll be spamming Macrumors next time i need a new mac ( call it a year or 2 ;) )

Big love.
 
cmfilms said:
Anyone have any idea how I can take the one Firewire 800 port and hook-up a Drobo(FW 800) and my MiniDV deck(FW400)?

This is a deal-breaker for me.
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Umm, a Firewire hub? Not Apple's fault you're trying to run two different speed devices and will have to run them both at FW400 speeds, but it will work.

jW
 
Memory Question

Forgive my ignorance (and probably lack of proper terminology), but I have a question about memory configuration on the new iMacs.

If 4GB is the new base standard. Does that mean there's 4GB in one slot with the a second slot empty or are there 2 GB in two slots ?

I want to know because if I later want to upgrade to 8 GB using a third-party source, will I need to buy 2 x 4GB to replace what I have or just 1 x 4GB to fill the empty slot ?

Thanks
 
alFR said:
Wow, lot of newly-joined trolls in today...
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That's probably because when consumers get shafted then tend to become more vocal.

I'm British/A Brit/English/From the UK and quite frankly i'm in awe at the prices of the machines. I'm just glad I don't need any new hardware otherwise I wouldn't be an Apple machine...
 
jackfrost123 said:
But can you elaborate on why you think that the mini is not an htpc, very strange the way you put it if you ask me....
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Well, let's see:

Hardware

The new Mac mini doesn't have HDMI (and therefore no built-in audio, which limits your sound options)
The new Mac mini doesn't support 720p natively (at the funky and much hated 1366x768 resolution, which is unfortunately the most common resolution for 720p LCDs and Plasmas)
The new Mac mini doesn't support Blu-ray (a deal killer for some, I personally don't care)
No built-in tuners

Software

Front Row is pretty much dead, hasn't been updated since 2007
No built-in PVR support

Marketing

Apple no longer markets the Mac mini as a HTPC. They tried that initially with the introduction of the first Intel-based Mac mini, but quickly scaled that back. It's now just a switcher/eco friendly/second Mac as far is marketing is concerned.

Now can the Mac mini be used as a HTPC? Sure, with additional software (like El Gato's EyeTV) and hardware add-ons (bigger hard drive, Blu-ray drive for Windows, HDHomeRun, etc.)
 
I am a little bit confused with the whole new dual-band support. I thought the whole point of having it was so that the n-networked computers or laptops wouldn't suffer performance drains from an a/b/or g networked computer joining the network... If this is true then why would apple write the following on their new updated page for the airport extreme?

"2. Based on a comparison with Apple’s 802.11g products. Comparison assumes AirPort Extreme network with 802.11n-enabled computer. Speed and range will be less if an 802.11a/b/g product joins the network. Accessing the wireless network requires an AirPort- or AirPort Extreme-enabled computer or other Wi-Fi Certified 802.11a/b/g-enabled computer. Actual performance will vary based on range, connection rate, site conditions, size of network, and other factors. Range will vary with site conditions."

That is a footnote included on the bottom of this webpage: http://www.apple.com/airportextreme/...frequency.html
that is sourced in relation to the speed gains apple claims for n-routers over g... I mean, could it simply be that they just forgot to take it out, or does having a a/b/or g networked computer still slow down other networked n computers even with dual band?

* And I know I already posted this on page 17, but it got quickly over looked...
 
Which Mac?

Wondering what the best iMac/Mini might be:

New Mac Mini 2.0ghz $599 (add about $200 for monitor)
or
20" iMac 2.4ghz 2400xt $849 (refurb)
or
20" iMac 2.66ghz 2600Pro $999 (refurb)

Not into games that much, so maybe the 2.4 iMac is the best all around deal?
 
They have done it again

Just for a little while, it was actually cheaper to buy Macs in the UK but not with the new pricing for the iMacs.
MacBook Pro is still cheaper in jolly ol' England but not the iMacs!!!

buggers...
 
Yvan256 said:
I don't have time to read through 10 pages of comments, but my personal opinion on the new Mac mini.

The good:
- no Atom CPU (that would have been extremely stupid)
- finally has a SuperDrive on the low-end model (and about time too)
- the RAM is now DDR3 and up to 4GB
- Not only did they keep FireWire, they upgraded it to FW800 (awesome)
- Another USB port (can never have too many of those)
- nVidia 9400M (yeah, the Mac mini GPU is finally decent and even in line with the MacBook and low-end iMacs)

The bad:
- the price went up everywhere except in the USA. Except that the Canadian price, while higher than the previous Mac mini, is still under the current exchange rate.

The not-good-but-not-bad:
- small CPU speed bump (it's fast enough IMHO, though I can understand the people who don't want an iMac but can't afford/don't want a Mac Pro).
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I agree with you. I think the new Mac Mini is a decent specification. However for a low end CPU, plus a single integrated chipset (as opposed to a fairly decent CPU with two-chip chipset for the last Mac Mini when it was released) I think that it is a worse specification after computer-specification-inflation.

The CPU should have been 2.4GHz in the $599. The RAM should have been 2GB in the base configuration. The Apple Remote should be included. The new $599 could still have been available, but for $499 at most.

I can't do anything regarding the exchange rate for the UK prices, but it's turned my Mac Mini purchase from a "when it's out" to "when it's required". Which considering my (considerably cheaper, 2 year old) Linux PC (2.5GHz X2, 2GB RAM, 320GB HD, 8600GT, ...) might be a while.
 
Macworld Boston 1997

Fast-forward to 14.58 in the you tube video, and you will get to a short clip of the new (then) board of directors taking about why Apple failed in the past. Bill Campbell say: "You know one of the thing that bothered me years ago was when they raised prices, it made me think that Apple didn't understand the outside world"

Macworld Boston 1997 YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEHNrqPkefI
 
Dual Display Mirror Only?

GuardBoy98 said:
From the Apple Store:

Video

Built-in iSight camera

Mini DisplayPort output with support for DVI, dual-link DVI, and VGA video (requires adapters, sold separately)

Simultaneously supports full native resolution on the built-in display and up to 2560 by 1600 pixels on an external display

(So the answer is no)
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Thanks for the response. But those specs only state that you can hook up a second display and the resolutions on each. It doesn't state that you can extend your screen to the second monitor.

From the tech specs [ http://www.apple.com/imac/specs.html ] it states:
Support for external display in video mirroring mode​

From the tech specs on the macBook Pro it states:
Dual display and video mirroring: Simultaneously supports full native resolution on the built-in display and up to 2560 by 1600 pixels on an external display, both at millions of colors​

I am not seeing dual display or extended display stated on specs for the iMac. I only see mirroring.
 
I cant believe people are actually justifying a purchase @ this prices.
The mac mini while probably the smallest form factor have to be the highest overpriced turd out there.

What is funny to me is that some of you complain about the current economic state but your the first in line to buy an overpriced product.

Like one commenter stated above. Apple is really showing how they view their fan base & upping the price by this much is pretty obvious their views towards us is "well release hardware with apple colors and the logo charge 400+ more & watch the cash flow. I mean one mac mini sale=2 dells hybrid almost. WOW!!
And for 100-200 more you might as well get a macbook.

And people are bragging about guest wifi for airport express? ARE YOU SERIOUS?
Is this how innovative apple is? Or is it that in general apple users are so restrictive that any age old feature is considered new since apple is years late into the feature per buck dpt?
 
Wait and See

dwd3885 said:
WOW. Shared memory on the low-end iMacs! That's crazy. I guess there's only two iMacs worth buying. That shared memory is gonna be terrible on the 24-inch with that resolution.
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I would not be too worried, depending on what you are doing. I am running an early 2008 Blackbook with 4GB Dual Channel DDR2-RAM on the X3100 gfx and am able to run both my 13" LCD and an HP LP2475W 24" at 1920 x 1200 without any noticeable issues. Of course, I primarily run business apps and photo apps (no movie making apps yet), but even low end gaming on my 24" has been fine. I guess it depends on what you want to do.
 
jackfrost123 said:
Yeah, thanks for the reply btw, that's irrelevant if it marketed as such or not when the have apple tv, it's first and foremost a very fitting htpc, in many homes, and as witnessed by internet fora everywhere, so I don't see his point...is it not a good htpc or something?
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His point is why would they add Blu Ray to the Mac Mini? if it was marketed as a HTPC then they would/should, but as it is not there's no need to add Blu Ray to it before the other Macs. I suppose it makes a decent HTPC except for the price.
 
GenNovE said:
I cant believe people are actually justifying a purchase @ this prices.
The mac mini while probably the smallest form factor have to be the highest overpriced turd out there.

What is funny to me is that some of you complain about the current economic state but your the first in line to buy an overpriced product.

Like one commenter stated above. Apple is really showing how they view their fan base & upping the price by this much is pretty obvious their views towards us is "well release hardware with apple colors and the logo charge 400+ more & watch the cash flow. I mean one mac mini sale=2 dells hybrid almost. WOW!!
And for 100-200 more you might as well get a macbook.

And people are bragging about guest wifi for airport express? ARE YOU SERIOUS?
Is this how innovative apple is? Or is it that in general apple users are so restrictive that any age old feature is considered new since apple is years late into the feature per buck dpt?
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I'm not "bragging" about the new guest wi-fi feature. I just stated that i like it because it will be useful for me. If it's not your cup of tea, then so be it but that doesn't mean the rest of us don't appreciate the small things. Apple can/should do better but that doesn't mean it got everything wrong.
 
jaw04005 said:
Well, let's see:

Hardware

The new Mac mini doesn't have HDMI (and therefore no built-in audio, which limits your sound options).
The new Mac mini doesn't support 720p natively (at the funky and much hated 1366x768 resolution, which is unfortunately the most common resolution for 720p LCDs and Plasmas)
The new Mac mini doesn't support Blu-ray (a deal killer for some, I personally don't care)
No built-in tuners

Software

Front Row is pretty much dead, hasn't been updated since 2007
No built-in PVR support

Marketing

Apple doesn't market the Mac mini as a HTPC. It's still a switcher PC in their minds.

Now can the Mac mini be used as a HTPC? Sure, with additional software and hardware add-ons.
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Thanks for the reply. Wait a sec, ok, no hdmi, what does that mean, I take an dvi to hdmi cable and I am sorted, and I get the sound to my tv, right? OR wrong? I am wrong but why...

About point 2. What do you mean natively? I am curious to that too. Thanks for the education here. Can't I change the output mode to this? Wont the new nvidia graphics take care of that? Shouldn't it be compatible with ANY screen, seeing as it is "headless".

I don't care about blue ray either, let alone in such a small format, you can always add a usb external blue ray player.

Tuners with tuner usb thingy, ok, but point taken.

Are there "built-out" so to speak options for pvr. Front row hasn't been updated since 2007? You kiddidng...didn't know that, thanks...What about this though from wikipedia:
"In February 2008, Apple announced a Front Row update branded "Apple TV Take Two." As before, the interface changed drastically and significant features were added. Whereas originally content could only be added via iTunes, movies, TV episodes, and podcasts could now be downloaded via Front Row via the iTunes Store. Front Row uses a user's Apple account to pay for the content. "


Ok last couple of points!!!!:apple:
 
ohwell, i was ready to buy an high-end imac if they'd added an option for a blu-ray drive, they just lost a sale. guess i'll have to build some kind of a hackintosh now...
i might get one of those new minis to connect to my tv, not sure tho...
 
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