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Any guesses at to how much a base Mac Pro with the only custom part being a Xeon W3680 (3.33GHz Hexacore) would be? I'm guessing $3200.
 
No thanks. Will pass on this round of 12 core mac pros. Can build one allot cheaper. 5 grand is way out of line. The new iMac with a SSD for boot and 1TB internal drive for apps will be concidered though.
 
I wonder what happened to the 3.33 6-core Intel cpul It only costs $1000 from Intel, so maybe they include that one too.

A 12 core 3.33 ghz i7 is alot faster than a 2.93 ghz 8-core.

Apple will offer the Xeon W3680 which is the same as the CPU you are thinking of, just with the Xeon brand and ECC memory support.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but an i7 970 is not a Xeon which are used in the Mac Pro's, correct?

That is correct. Apple are offering the Xeon version of the 980X. The 970 has a Xeon counterpart too in the W3670.
 
As a 3D artist, I have long since moved on from the Mac Pro ...

Yeah... and $5000 for 12 cores? Wonder what that $5000 would buy on the PC side? I bet you get a lot more bang for the buck.

I'm tired of playing the Apple game of paying premium for less than top-end equipment. Time to move on just as you did. Do you have any recommendations? Build my own or buy existing? What kind of price range to get a decent 3-d/Video box?
 
Yes but these are not the posts I'm referring too - I understand some of the frustration myself as a long term Apple user (just sold my G5 and hoping to get a Mac Pro if I can raise the cash). Typically most of the trolls have registered in the last 3-4 months and post only negative comments about anything, most of which are barely comprehensible.

I disagree that Apple have not released decent kit in the last few years - I have an iMac 24" and I absolutely love it along with my iPhone 3GS. Over the last 5 years Apple have been the most innovative company in the world of computing.

Check my join date. Apple used to be an innovative computer company, releasing machines that combined bleeding-edge tech and great design at a premium price. This premium, for many, was justified because the computers were quantifiably better.

Apple's computers now seem to be falling further and further behind the PC competition. The great design and OS are certainly worth something, but you've got to provide the hardware to back it up.

As it stands right now, NONE of Apple's computers represent a decent value.
 
Any guesses at to how much a base Mac Pro with the only custom part being a Xeon W3680 (3.33GHz Hexacore) would be? I'm guessing $3200.

It is currently $1,200 to upgrade from the W3520 to the W3580. Both of which have the same list price as the W3530 and W3680.
 
Display Port supports 10-bit colour


Yes.

How about a card with 4 display ports...

come on apple.


but ya.. these computer are getting really pricey.

Keep in mind that this is what we will be left with until maybe mid 2012.

sux.
 
oh and one more thing: my girlfriend's bright pink Sony Vaio even has eSata on it. Mac Pro? nope
What about using the on-board connectors?

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Order a bracket here ($19) or elsewhere, and off you go. No hot swap though.
 
Mac Pro construction is second to none. The closest I've come is with a Coolermaster (Cosmos) case, and that's about twice the size and still not as neat inside. I've a nice 4Ghz (3.33) 980X inside one right here...

Check out the Corsair 700D. It's no Mac Pro, but its still a very nice (and professional looking) computer case.
 
Yeah... and $5000 for 12 cores? Wonder what that $5000 would buy on the PC side? I bet you get a lot more bang for the buck.

I'm tired of playing the Apple game of paying premium for less than top-end equipment. Time to move on just as you did. Do you have any recommendations? Build my own or buy existing? What kind of price range to get a decent 3-d/Video box?

Euwww...old and icky argument.

I built my own 980X o/c to 4Ghz, 12GB RAM, Quadro FX 3800, 2x1TB 6GB/s SATA, so on and so on, all for the grand total of £2500 - and it's absolutely lovely, blasts along. But in all honesty, I'd rather have a Mac.

I have two PC laptops and three PC desktops, all were top of the range when I bought/built them and all pretty much worthless after 3 years. Not because the hardware is wrong, but the way Windows treats hardware. I have enough trouble keeping my house tidy without having to clean up the registry and et cetera every two minutes.

Anyway, the 980X has exactly four applications installed on it, and that's all I'll allow. Thus the big saving is suddenly a bit of a waste... but it's the only way to guarantee it'll still be working as well in 3 years time as it does now (whereas my 1st edition Mac Pro still pings along as well as it did on day 1...never had a single issue).
 
Final Cut

When Final Cut Suite can take full advantage of these machines I will get one. Until then it's a date with a pretty girl who at the end of the night tells you she already has a boyfriend. 'Nuff said.
 
I wonder what happened to the 3.33 6-core Intel cpul It only costs $1000 from Intel, so maybe they include that one too.

A 12 core 3.33 ghz i7 is alot faster than a 2.93 ghz 8-core.

The 3.33 hexacore xeon is $1,750 on newegg...
 
No thanks. Will pass on this round of 12 core mac pros. Can build one allot cheaper. 5 grand is way out of line. The new iMac with a SSD for boot and 1TB internal drive for apps will be concidered though.

You'll pass on every round of Mac Pro then. The old days of the PowerMac consumer/pro-sumer tower computers are over for Apple. Now they do Workstations. Forget Inspirons and Pavillons, the Mac Pro isn't meant to compete with those.
 
Personally, I think the best solution is to go out and buy a cheap, used Mac Mini/iMac if you love the OS. Then take the money you would have spent on the Mac Pro and build a monster PC rig.

I did and I will never look back. I get the functionality of a Mac for my day-to-day browsing and music but have the PC for gaming and more intensive tasks.
 
Exactly. You can build an i7 machine with 6 ram slots, top of the line components for about a grand. And it will blow the doors off the base mac "pro".

No, you can't. The quad-core Xeons (X5365) for the 2006 Mac Pro still fetch around $700 PER processor. A Core 2 Quad running at 3GHz is NOT a Xeon X5365.

Your machine may be faster, but if there's one thing I have learned from reading these forums it's that a lot of people here don't seem to have any idea what the difference between workstation class components are versus high end desktop components and that premiums get charged on anything considered to be "business class."

I didn't want to pay for a Mac pro because I didn't want the price and that's fine. I built myself a nice little Hackintosh desktop and it works beautifully. It was fun to build, I used off the shelf parts and the best part? I didn't cry like a little baby because Apple doesn't care about my particular demographic. My wants don't fit their business model. Being a well adjusted human being, I'm not personally deluded into thinking Apple gives a crap about me.

Can someone please tell me why we care about USB 3, especially since half the people frothing for it were disappointed about the lack of LightPeak (which is why it's unlikely you're going to see any further FW and USB speed bumps, LightPeak IS about as Apple as it gets). In a Mac Pro I can put in an eSATA card. So, besides storage, what exactly do people need/want USB 3 for? (The lack of eSATA on the iMacs is far more of an irritation than the lack of USB 3.)

I also wonder if half the whiners complaining about the lack of a case redesign have ever actually worked on a Mac Pro. That case is just flat out awesome. It has great air flow, it's quiet, it's easy to work on, etc. I'd like to be able to put more hard drives in it but... it's not a huge deal. I'd also like a pony, but I don't get one of these.

Is Apple moving away from Pro users? I dunno. Could be. If it turns out it's more profitable for them to leave that market, they will. It doesn't matter if you have been buying Apple workstations for the last 25 years, the company owes you nothing. They are a business. I think a lot of the anger is that some people seem to think of Apple as something more. It isn't.
 
How does the eight-core model's modest upgrade justify the price increase?

I'm in the market for one of these, but now I wish I'd purchased six months ago.

Contrarily, I was hunting one in February/March while everyone was proclaiming the new one 'right around the corner'. After the third "maybe next Tuesday," I bought. Very glad I did.

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