Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
I always recommend waiting for a refurbished model. However, checking the M4 MacBook Air vs my refurbished M1 MacBook Air, the new one with a similar configuration was only US$50 more.

Apple isn't going to do something really interesting. They tried that with Touch Bar and that didn't please many people. Besides, they're spending most of their development money on chip development.
They might innovate with the m6 MacBook Pro… if they don’t with the M6 MacBook Air then definitely I cannot recommend the MacBook Air…
 
  • Disagree
Reactions: slippery-pete
Why expect that? Most of the time, a new design of laptop comes out, remains mostly unchanged other than internal specs and has little to no visual changes until it is time for the next redesign. Redesigns are when expensive new components cause the price to go up. Keeping designs stable for a few iterations lets Apple keep the prices stable even with some level of inflation.
I just wanted the four rumors : better battery, an extra thunderbolt port, nano texture and a brighter display… now the thing is that MacBook Pro is more improving than the MacBook Air… if we compare MacBook Pro M3 and M4 there are more features than MacBook Air M3 vs M4…
 
They might innovate with the m6 MacBook Pro… if they don’t with the M6 MacBook Air then definitely I cannot recommend the MacBook Air…
Then, don't recommend it. They will be producing very similar models for a few years.

There will be a point where a computer will be just an appliance. You want to be excited about these devices. Many of us just want to do our work.

When I first activated my M1 MacBook Air, I was excited at the performance over my mid-2012 MacBook Pro with quad-core i7 and GeForce 650M. I had a Windows laptop computer with a quad-core i7 four generations later than that of my mid-2012 and it wasn't that much faster.

I want Apple to put together a gaming laptop computer but they're not going to do that because that would cost money and people would still treat it with suspicion.
 
I doubt they will do that, Apple received a lot of blowback when they did that on the M2 I believe. We won’t know until we see our first reviews with testing. Yea it is a concern with the cheaper price.

Despite all the negativity on fan sites, I suspect most users never noticed the difference in actual use. A few edge cases, maybe, but for most tasks teh speed difference hand no noticeable impact. Cost savings which result in better pricing, however, are noticed by most consumers.

I want Apple to put together a gaming laptop computer but they're not going to do that because that would cost money and people would still treat it with suspicion.

The challenge is software. Even if Apple did come out with a gaming laptop, it would likely be a very niche product and thus not an attractive market for game publishers; and serious gamers would want upgradable rigs to keep up with the latest hardware. Even on the Windows side, how many gaming laptops are available vs laptops with high end specs that can play games; similar to what is available in the MBP line?
 
  • Like
Reactions: Tagbert
...

The challenge is software. Even if Apple did come out with a gaming laptop, it would likely be a very niche product and thus not an attractive market for game publishers; and serious gamers would want upgradable rigs to keep up with the latest hardware. Even on the Windows side, how many gaming laptops are available vs laptops with high end specs that can play games; similar to what is available in the MBP line?
Apple don't really take heat seriously. My mid-2012 MacBook Pro with quad-core i7 and GeForce 650M would hit 100 degrees C when processing video or playing a graphically-intense game. It was great in the winter, of course.

I'm actually using a Creator's laptop computer on Windows 11 Pro and it does reasonably well, except the keyboard, but it does tend to run a bit hot, even though not as hot as if it had an Intel processor.

I don't expect Apple to ever create a gaming machine, or even get away from the Thin or Else designs.
 
  • Haha
Reactions: Lioness~
Apple don't really take heat seriously. My mid-2012 MacBook Pro with quad-core i7 and GeForce 650M would hit 100 degrees C when processing video or playing a graphically-intense game. It was great in the winter, of course.

I'm actually using a Creator's laptop computer on Windows 11 Pro and it does reasonably well, except the keyboard, but it does tend to run a bit hot, even though not as hot as if it had an Intel processor.

I don't expect Apple to ever create a gaming machine, or even get away from the Thin or Else designs.
That story from 2012 does not reflect Apple’s products of today. In particular, Apple Silicon machines are generally cooler than similar performance Intel/AMD machines.

Apple was criticized by many for making the newer MacBook Pros so thick.When Apple debuted the current MacBook Air design, tons of people complained that they were too thick and didn’t have that thin leading edge.

I don’t think heat is the limiting factor for a gaming Mac. Game companies have not been interested in porting their software to the Mac and Apple has not done enough to court them into the ecosystem.
 
That story from 2012 does not reflect Apple’s products of today. In particular, Apple Silicon machines are generally cooler than similar performance Intel/AMD machines.

Apple was criticized by many for making the newer MacBook Pros so thick.When Apple debuted the current MacBook Air design, tons of people complained that they were too thick and didn’t have that thin leading edge.

I don’t think heat is the limiting factor for a gaming Mac. Game companies have not been interested in porting their software to the Mac and Apple has not done enough to court them into the ecosystem.
Many people complain unrealistically about many things.

I haven't seen a thick MacBook Pro.
 
For as much as I want to upgrade my M2 15", I just cant do it. Like the sky blue color and M4, but not enough to pull the trigger.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Otwer22
They might innovate with the m6 MacBook Pro… if they don’t with the M6 MacBook Air then definitely I cannot recommend the MacBook Air…
You do realize the air is the budget model with budget options. However I will say the air is not a budget laptop price wise. So if you expect innovations you’re going to forever be disappointed. The air will always lag behind the pro models period. So if you expect to get 120Hz refresh rate on displays I don’t see that happening, oled panel maybe. 90Hz maybe. Additional ports, who knows but doubtful. 1000 nits of display brightness, not. 600 nits maybe. I could go on and on, you Get the point.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Tagbert
You do realize the air is the budget model with budget options. However I will say the air is not a budget laptop price wise. So if you expect innovations you’re going to forever be disappointed. The air will always lag behind the pro models period. So if you expect to get 120Hz refresh rate on displays I don’t see that happening, oled panel maybe. 90Hz maybe. Additional ports, who knows but doubtful. 1000 nits of display brightness, not. 600 nits maybe. I could go on and on, you Get the point.
The MacBook Air is at the same price as the iPad Pro and the iPhone… we got innovations on the iPad Pro last year (we might also get later this year) same for the iPhone Pro… but unfortunately not on the MacBook Air…

MacBook Air might be the entry MacBook model but at the price it cost… it should have more innovation… this is not a Chromebook or a cheap windows laptop which I would mostly qualify as <budget>
 
The MacBook Air is at the same price as the iPad Pro and the iPhone… we got innovations on the iPad Pro last year (we might also get later this year) same for the iPhone Pro… but unfortunately not on the MacBook Air…

MacBook Air might be the entry MacBook model but at the price it cost… it should have more innovation… this is not a Chromebook or a cheap windows laptop which I would mostly qualify as <budget>
It is what Apple considers their budget model. You keep trying to compare pro to their air offerings. They are not targeting the same markets with the pro and air variants. I guess you will never recommend the air as they will never meet your expectations. You probably shouldn’t offer to recommend as your advise will be biased towards the pro models.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Tagbert
It is what Apple considers their budget model. You keep trying to compare pro to their air offerings. They are not targeting the same markets with the pro and air variants. I guess you will never recommend the air as they will never meet your expectations. You probably shouldn’t offer to recommend as your advise will be biased towards the pro models.
I see apple as premium products… then there is Pro models which are premium premium…
 
  • Like
Reactions: Otwer22
I see apple as premium products… then there is Pro models which are premium premium…
You’re not wrong, just realize premium and double premium. I think your expectations for air are more than what can expect to see is all I’m saying.
 
I would love to know what some posters are trying to do with their computers! There was a seismic shift with the introduction of Apple Silicon. Since then I've been able to edit 4K video very happily on both an M1 Mini and also a new M3 MacBook Air. Are people reading spec sheets or using these devices and reflecting their actual experience?
Until the M series arrived I always bought MBP but my M3 Air is truly the best laptop I've ever owned. I would have no hesitation in buying the Air M4 with its improved base model spec if I didn't already have the M3.
 
Reviews are out now and it looks like Apple sent the new Sky Blue to the reviewers. The color looks really good.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Tagbert
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.