That is also incorrect. The only the high-end MB shares the same CPU as the low-end MBP (2.40 GHz). The low-end MB has a CPU of 2.0 GHz.
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That is also incorrect. The only the high-end MB shares the same CPU as the low-end MBP (2.40 GHz). The low-end MB has a CPU of 2.0 GHz.
I doubt it.
I think the primary reason for eliminating the matte display is because there is one piece of glass across the entire front of the display. Matte finish would look weird over the black bezel. Besides the glossy displays are brighter, have more contrast, and really are more accurate because they don't smear the light emitted from the LED backlight.
Firewire 800 is backward compatible with FW 400, so I don't think Apple will add a FW 400 port. If anything they might have two FW 800 ports.
True, but the same cannot be said for the PowerBooks back in the day. When the 12" and 17" were introduced, the 15" remained Titanium for eight months.
haha.. aw, that makes me kinda sad. I'm a graphic designer and I've been anticipating this upgrade because I need to get one. I feel like I have little choice but to shell out the money cuz I'm so used to designing on a Mac. And as much as professionals are pissed, it still is the industry standard.
I'm going to have to test the screen out in person to see if its tolerable. If not, I might have to work in bright locations less... The colors not a big deal for me because web stuff is going to be displayed (and thus tested) on different monitors anyway, and for print, we should be sticking to proofs and Pantone for color matching. Can color calibration and perhaps a matte screen protector (weary) be enough for this thing to be usable without a monitor?
I can just see Steve Jobs saying at his next notebook keynote, We talked to users of the MacBook Pro, and something that people overwhelmingly wanted was a matte display. And now we're giving them that option.
i own a alumamac and i think you are overreacting a little here. Sure the glare is a huge and understandable issue for professionals, but i think the case that the black is hard on your eyes is a weak argument. The black keyboard is just a design disagreement, personally i like the black keyboard but hey whatever, no one is gonna say you're wrong about preference.
judging by the fanatical reaction by these forums i would venture to guess that there will be a revision within months with either antiglare glass/film or a no glass option.haha.. aw, that makes me kinda sad. I'm a graphic designer and I've been anticipating this upgrade because I need to get one. I feel like I have little choice but to shell out the money cuz I'm so used to designing on a Mac. And as much as professionals are pissed, it still is the industry standard.
I'm going to have to test the screen out in person to see if its tolerable. If not, I might have to work in bright locations less... The colors not a big deal for me because web stuff is going to be displayed (and thus tested) on different monitors anyway, and for print, we should be sticking to proofs and Pantone for color matching. Can color calibration and perhaps a matte screen protector (weary) be enough for this thing to be usable without a monitor?
I can just see Steve Jobs saying at his next notebook keynote, We talked to users of the MacBook Pro, and something that people overwhelmingly wanted was a matte display. And now we're giving them that option.
But in terms of the evolution of Apple portables, the black IS a step back. Does this look familiar?
Apple couldve easily kept aluminum keys, and reduced the bezel. Better yet, make the screen enclosure one piece too, if the "one piece" design is what they are going for.
But in terms of the evolution of Apple portables, the black IS a step back. Does this look familiar?
Apple couldve easily kept aluminum keys, and reduced the bezel. Better yet, make the screen enclosure one piece too, if the "one piece" design is what they are going for.
im not saying you're wrong, but personally i like the contrast of the black on aluminum. I think if they had made the keys white it could have been interesting but i certainly wouldn't call the black keys a deal breaker or an issue for that matter.
Sorry, but I've been reading a few of your comments, and I have to say that your opinion here is way off the mark.
I'm going to buy one of these new machines, because I need one. So will most of the other people who think that the stuff we lost from the MBP line is inexcusable.
All of you out there who scoff at anyone who dares to question the wisdom of the almighty Steve need a wakeup call - for a lot of us, these bloody things aren't objects of desire, or commodities, or some fancy way to keep ourselves distracted, or status symbols - THEY'RE F'N TOOLS that let us MAKE A LIVING.
Would you fault a carpenter who was pissed that he couldn't hold onto his hammer anymore because the manufacturer made the handle too slippery? Imagine that the carpenter couldn't work as easily anymore because his fantastically special nails that he relied upon only worked with that hammer, and he found himself at the mercy of the hammer maker's increasingly bad design decisions.
Would you laugh at a bus driver who was infuriated by the omission of a rearview mirror on his vehicles? Imagine that he was stuck driving the diminished bus because that bus's maker also made the superior roads he relied upon to move around. Would he have a right to be upset?
No. Clearly, in your eyes, we should all be happy with the same pretty shiny objects, and stop daring to ask for tools appropriate to our professions from the company that has supplied them to us for so long, and to whom we have invested time, money, energy, loyalty, and evangelism in the past.
I so desperately want to like the machine that I'm about to put myself into debt for, but christ on a pogo stick, I don't, because the very small thing that would be so easy to get right is a very big deal to me when it's wrong, and messes with my professional life for 45 hours a week for the next few years.
Scapegoat my hairy arse.
haha.. aw, that makes me kinda sad. I'm a graphic designer and I've been anticipating this upgrade because I need to get one. I feel like I have little choice but to shell out the money cuz I'm so used to designing on a Mac. And as much as professionals are pissed, it still is the industry standard.
I'm going to have to test the screen out in person to see if its tolerable. If not, I might have to work in bright locations less... The colors not a big deal for me because web stuff is going to be displayed (and thus tested) on different monitors anyway, and for print, we should be sticking to proofs and Pantone for color matching. Can color calibration and perhaps a matte screen protector (weary) be enough for this thing to be usable without a monitor?
I can just see Steve Jobs saying at his next notebook keynote, We talked to users of the MacBook Pro, and something that people overwhelmingly wanted was a matte display. And now we're giving them that option.
I see that happening at MacWorld with the release of the 17 inch, the dropping of the white MB and price drops all around. I also hope that they rethink this education discount, which only gets me 50 dollars off the price of the new MBP (here in Canada, 50 dollar price increase and only 100 dollars off instead of 200)
That's a mockery of those who still live indigenously, usually with more humility and fulfillment than the common civilized human.
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The colour on the key pad doesn't work, you know mac, leave the key pad the same colour of the base of the mac!, in my opinion they completely destroyed it, like what were they thinking!, i agree glossy pad, come on, they HAVENT used a computer with the windows open and when the sun shines in Hmmph
Quick thing if you're on a mac and need that
, for a mac book its alt+shift+k =]]
The colour on the key pad doesn't work, you know mac, leave the key pad the same colour of the base of the mac!, in my opinion they completely destroyed it, like what were they thinking!, i agree glossy pad, come on, they HAVENT used a computer with the windows open and when the sun shines in Hmmph
Quick thing if you're on a mac and need that
, for a mac book its alt+shift+k =]] That post rang true with me! I always thought Mac fans were cultishly obsessive, but when my Powerbook was stolen, I was forced to get a new one and have since been following the rumors closely (dare I say obsessively).
I realized this is why I'm up at 3 in the morning posting on a mac forum. I literally live on my laptop, whether I like it or not.
Didn't think I'd end up with the complainers, but after waiting 6 months for this update (to replace my 1st gen Macbook Pro) I'm not going to bother - I'm going to buy a iMac instead.
2 Reasons:
1. Increased UK price.
2. After all this time, still no hi-res option on the 15. 1600x1080 would have been ideal.
2 Reasons:
1. Increased UK price.
2. After all this time, still no hi-res option on the 15. 1600x1080 would have been ideal.
I keep my fingers crossed for a MBPP!
The option for no glass at all would be best. In short, like it was before and with anti-glare coating on the LCD. The black border doesnt bother me.
Glass on top of a screen feels cheap PC and low quality LCD to me.
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One thing is for sure mac users cover a wide spectrum. In the past they produced machines which covered all the bases and gave you choice. Forget slim and light it's raw power and flexibility that's needed imho. One of the great bonuses of a mbp was you could do anything with it in the future this justified it's price tag. There is a glimmer of hope for the 17" as it surely has more space. It remains to be seen whether Mr Jobs has the decency and flexibility to offer a matt option. After all he said he had spoken to consumers, what if the consumers spoke to him ? Choice is good it's only a piece of glass for the sake of a little sand blasting or whatever everyone could be happy. The other concern is the growing consumerism in the range. The Mac Pro is the last bastion of the old pro apple ethos.
On a side note why does the mini display port to dual link dvi adapter have 3 tails (ends) one is dvi ,one mini display port and the third ? EDIT apparently it uses USB power as well hmm flexibility compromised again.
One thing is for sure mac users cover a wide spectrum. In the past they produced machines which covered all the bases and gave you choice. Forget slim and light it's raw power and flexibility that's needed imho. One of the great bonuses of a mbp was you could do anything with it in the future this justified it's price tag. There is a glimmer of hope for the 17" as it surely has more space. It remains to be seen whether Mr Jobs has the decency and flexibility to offer a matt option. After all he said he had spoken to consumers, what if the consumers spoke to him ? Choice is good it's only a piece of glass for the sake of a little sand blasting or whatever everyone could be happy. The other concern is the growing consumerism in the range. The Mac Pro is the last bastion of the old pro apple ethos.
On a side note why does the mini display port to dual link dvi adapter have 3 tails (ends) one is dvi ,one mini display port and the third ? EDIT apparently it uses USB power as well hmm flexibility compromised again.
No Apple notebook that I know of has aluminum keys. As for the bezel, I really don't think they could have literally made the entire upper chassis the display.But in terms of the evolution of Apple portables, the black IS a step back. Does this look familiar?
Apple couldve easily kept aluminum keys, and reduced the bezel. Better yet, make the screen enclosure one piece too, if the "one piece" design is what they are going for.
Why are you so excited about the new RAM? It boosts performance by about 5-10%, if that.
What happened to Apple pushing the bar? These are just small tweaks (and several of which make them less desireable to many - glossy screen one of them).
These are essentially the same - same res screen, slightly faster, slightly larger HDD etc.
And who is going to pay an extra $1000 for a Pro to get a backlit keayboard, FW800 and bigger HDD?
These are essentially the same - same res screen, slightly faster, slightly larger HDD etc.
And who is going to pay an extra $1000 for a Pro to get a backlit keayboard, FW800 and bigger HDD?
Wow. I still think some of the complaining is out of hand. I happen to be very happy with the glossy MBP that I have, and it's my first time using a glossy screen. Granted, I don't do photography, so I don't know how true the statements are about inaccurate colors (but it doesn't make sense to me).
I DO agree about the FW port, however (on the MB, not the MBP). I don't udnerstand the decision to remove FW altogether. I'd be ok with all MB(P)s having FW800 only, since a converter is not a big deal.
The black keys - When I first got my PB 12" (1GHz), I was slightly disappointed that the keyboard had no contrast to the machine itself. So, I'd be happy with a black keyboad.
Regardless............ I won't be buying until at least 2009 or 2010, since I cannot justify another computer purchase right now (and I want some next-gen tech, such as Snow Leopard and Core i7).
I DO agree about the FW port, however (on the MB, not the MBP). I don't udnerstand the decision to remove FW altogether. I'd be ok with all MB(P)s having FW800 only, since a converter is not a big deal.
The black keys - When I first got my PB 12" (1GHz), I was slightly disappointed that the keyboard had no contrast to the machine itself. So, I'd be happy with a black keyboad.
Regardless............ I won't be buying until at least 2009 or 2010, since I cannot justify another computer purchase right now (and I want some next-gen tech, such as Snow Leopard and Core i7).