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Man I wanted 1TB so I could just move all my existing Mac environment over without a lot of fuss. It's not $800 worth of fuss though.

I guess I'm out.

Edit: Can the TB3 external drive be made the OS drive?
 
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It does look like RAM is upgradeable, although I'd really like to see that officially confirmed somewhere. It's not mentioned specifically on the tech spec page from what I could tell.

But at about $1700 for a suped-up one that I upgrade that RAM on this could make a compelling upgrade from my 2009 Mac Pro. It'd be faster in every way and 1/50th the size. As a software developer this would certainly be "pro" enough as I don't really care about GPU as long as it can run 4K/5K which it can.
 
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I agree. 128GB is just silly for a device many use as a home computer.

I'm worried about the 128GB more than the i3. And moving to 256 costs you $200. That's just insane. An i3/256/8, no dGPU, headless computer is $1000. Education discount saves you just $40 not hat model. I've used Apple computers for decades now, but this is maybe the most shocking price hike I can remember.
 
The single biggest problem for ALL Macs is the storage. There is simply no way to replace the storage WHEN it fails. This makes these computers disposable appliances, and these prices are simply too expensive for computers which should be easy to repair [but which will need to be thrown out when the storage fails--How environmentally friendly is this strategy?].

I also don't understand Apple's choice of iGPU. Why not include the Intel CPU + AMD Vega chipset? Or better yet, go with the less expensive AMD Ryzen and Vega combination (unless it has to do with TDP or lack of TB3 compatibility)?

I've noticed an increase to pretty much 100% reliability in storage since Apple moved to SSDs instead of mechanical hard drives. We have several labs full of iMacs and numerous Macbooks in our department and there have been zero SSD storage failures.

I think the reason Apple has gone this way is because their SSDs are reliable enough that storage failure is no longer a real concern. They probably use high quality flash storage and overprovision the drives enough that it's just not an issue anymore like it was with spinning rust. They certainly charge enough for it!
 
Now that the pricing's been posted, I'm reconsidering my enthusiasm. With 1 tb of storage, 64 gb of RAM and the i7 processor, a mini would cost $3500. I could upgrade the RAM later, but not the SSD (which is the big-ticket item). That's Mac Pro pricing, without comparable graphics power. I'd still need to spend about a grand on an external graphics card. I guess I'll stick with my old Mac Pro for now.
 
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Nice upgrade compared to what they've had before. Even the base model should be plenty for most people. Just unfortunate that they didn't cram some kind of a discrete GPU in there like Radeon 560-580, or even a Vega if such a thing is possible. Not sure it'd be worth it to buy an external GPU for it seeing how high the cost would go up. At that point it would be cheaper to just get a hackintosh, or even a Windows 10 (obviously not as nice as mac OS) system with a Ryzen 7/Threadripper CPU.
 
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Just looked at amazon on the i3 - Intel Core i3-8350K Desktop Processor 6 Cores up to 4.0 GHz unlocked LGA 1151 300 Series 91W - $169.

Six core for $169 (and that is the retail price) - can't wait to see the tear down and costing of parts on this thing.
 
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The i3 / 8GB / 128GB is rather pathetic. Even if you upgrade to the i7, you still get the same 630 graphics... according to Apple Specs.

Still, its better value than the Air or MacBook 13" IMO once you've upgraded to decent memory, GPU and SSD.
 
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Apple is out of touch with reality.

Great products if the products had the proper configuration.
The entry levels are a complete joke. Someone please tell Tim Cook that we are in 2018.
Both Mac mini and Macbook Air deliver with 8GB of Ram.
Delivering a product with 8GB of Ram is kind of an insult to consumers.

I was quite shocked, specially about the Mac mini prices...

$1200 for a Macbook Air that delivers with 8gb of RAM? No thanks.
The Mac mini starts at $800 with 8gb of Ram and 126 internal HD. By the time you upgrade the specs to what is actually usable, 16gb RAM and 256hd you are already up to $1200.00 just for a 4 core?? No Thank you.

Once again, Tim Cook greed is out of control with the pricing...
 
Man I wanted 1TB so I could just move all my existing Mac environment over without a lot of fuss. It's not $800 worth of fuss though.

I guess I'm out.

It does feel under-spec'ed in this day and age. But Apple always gouges on storage.

On a desktop machine, though, how hard is it to plug in an external drive? Cheap, fast and easy solution.
 
Any reason I need 10 GB ethernet?

If you have to ask this question, the answer is no. Seriously though, 10GB is useful when you need to move huge files. For example, you have a server/NAS and need to move large video files back and forth. Keep in mind that all links in the chain need to be 10GB which includes a 10GB switch (they're still expensive), cable/wiring that supports those speeds, and 10GB on the server/NAS.
 
Sadly I see only USB-A so maybe Apple will hear my please add USB-C or some developer have an app that will make my dream set up happened. I love the new iPad Pro and I would love it even better if I can connect it to the new Mac Mini through that connection port or wirelessly over WiFi so I can get a little bit of Mac on my iPad Pro as an output or Mac interface when I need it. I use iOS more than I use my MacBook so a Mac Mini would be ideal with iPad Pro.

There are 4 USB-C ports (Thunderbolt 3)
 
It seemed like the speaker was implying that memory can be upgraded, since he highlighted the SO-DIMMs.
Seems to be only two memory slots, so only half the performance for what it should be able to do. I guess this is a mobile crap processer as usual...
 
Apple are dead to me. No iMac refresh and nothing about the Mac Pro. So many people on here throwing their money at overpriced and outdated technology.
 
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Incredible. Looks to be more powerful than the current Mac Pro (2013), especially if it's paired with an eGPU. The new base quad core model is the same price as the base 2012 quad core, but that came with a mechanical HDD, so the starting price is actually less considering what you get.

I'm guessing 6 core CPU is Core™ i7-8700.

https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/search?utf8=✓&q=+i7-8700
 
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I do not actually believe it!!!!

My 2011 MacBook Pro I was watching the livestream on, couldn’t believe it either. It literally gave its final breath and died immediately after the announcement (how’s that for planned obsolescence?)

Finally, an Apple product I want to buy!! So much better than I was expecting (I’ve learned to set my expectations low). The first Apple keynote I’ve genuinely been excited about, in a long while.

Too bad it didn't extend its life just a bit longer to crawl over the :apple:counter and trade in its dying body for cash.
 
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