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Some takes:

  • If it has a fan, I can guarantee that you will need some kind of filter at the bottom, to minimize the amount of dust gathered, since it will be a nightmare to open it in order to properly dust it off. Ask Mac Studio owners.
  • 256GB of storage is an insult and even borderline criminal abuse of their customers. Their "storage upgrades" prices are a slap on the face to their loyal customers and a reminder that they have us by the short ones.
  • Headphone jack up front benefits only the people that constantly plug/unplug headphones, in a place like an agile office. The rest will treat this as a proper desktop computer, hence the jack should be at the back.
  • Power button at the bottom is not that bad actually.

I know that many of us would never consider a PC, but for the ones that do see these things as tools and hate being taken advantage off thanks to our loyalty, consider the following:

  • Mini PC's comes with 32 GB RAM and 1 TB NVME's for around US$700, with a copy of Winblows.
  • Many are expandable with external GPUs.
  • RAM and storage is expandable and user replaceable.
  • Can run Linux easily.
  • Easy to open and clean.

If Apple didnt r*aped us with the criminal overpriced upgrades, this Mac Mini like others systems, would be simply perfect, but I don't know, Apple keeps making things more difficult than they needs to be.
 
The Mini computer will be ruled by Apple! Geekom, Minisforum, bee-link, etc are now taking note! Apple will conquer this segment. I see these selling like hotcakes! I can see an increase of market share over the next two years. Price points are incredible!
I mean… unless you need to run any other OS, then it’s useless.

Maybe to consumers yes, but this won’t mean much to businesses.
 
24 gb for the M4 pro! I can‘ believe it! And just $200 for additional 24 gigs! I guess, they didn‘t ask Tim Apple 😂

You might want to go and re-check that price for the additional 24GB on the Pro...

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Fan question is important to thermal throttling. I don't really like the language of "whole new thermal architecture".

Will probably order one, and if it is a throttle monster ...then it can (will) be returned.
 
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Some takes:

  • If it has a fan, I can guarantee that you will need some kind of filter at the bottom, to minimize the amount of dust gathered, since it will be a nightmare to open it in order to properly dust it off. Ask Mac Studio owners.
  • 256GB of storage is an insult and even borderline criminal abuse of their customers. Their "storage upgrades" prices are a slap on the face to their loyal customers and a reminder that they have us by the short ones.
  • Headphone jack up front benefits only the people that constantly plug/unplug headphones, in a place like an agile office. The rest will treat this as a proper desktop computer, hence the jack should be at the back.
  • Power button at the bottom is not that bad actually.

I know that many of us would never consider a PC, but for the ones that do see these things as tools and hate being taken advantage off thanks to our loyalty, consider the following:

  • Mini PC's comes with 32 GB RAM and 1 TB NVME's for around US$700, with a copy of Winblows.
  • Many are expandable with external GPUs.
  • RAM and storage is expandable and user replaceable.
  • Can run Linux easily.
  • Easy to open and clean.

If Apple didnt r*aped us with the criminal overpriced upgrades, this Mac Mini like others systems, would be simply perfect, but I don't know, Apple keeps making things more difficult than they needs to be.

All fair points, but none of those mini PCs have M4 and M4 Pro level chips. They also have worse performance while consuming more power, and probably have loud fans and worst of all -- external power bricks!
 
Some takes:

  • If it has a fan, I can guarantee that you will need some kind of filter at the bottom, to minimize the amount of dust gathered, since it will be a nightmare to open it in order to properly dust it off. Ask Mac Studio owners.
  • 256GB of storage is an insult and even borderline criminal abuse of their customers. Their "storage upgrades" prices are a slap on the face to their loyal customers and a reminder that they have us by the short ones.
  • Headphone jack up front benefits only the people that constantly plug/unplug headphones, in a place like an agile office. The rest will treat this as a proper desktop computer, hence the jack should be at the back.
  • Power button at the bottom is not that bad actually.

I know that many of us would never consider a PC, but for the ones that do see these things as tools and hate being taken advantage off thanks to our loyalty, consider the following:

  • Mini PC's comes with 32 GB RAM and 1 TB NVME's for around US$700, with a copy of Winblows.
  • Many are expandable with external GPUs.
  • RAM and storage is expandable and user replaceable.
  • Can run Linux easily.
  • Easy to open and clean.

If Apple didnt r*aped us with the criminal overpriced upgrades, this Mac Mini like others systems, would be simply perfect, but I don't know, Apple keeps making things more difficult than they needs to be.


Rapidly becoming the new 16gb iPhone which they basically had to be shamed into retiring
 
Pre-ordered base model, with 10gbe as the only upgrade, should be a solid machine :)
 
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