That doesn't sound like it's worth upgrading from an M2 mini.
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Apple Announces Redesigned Mac Mini With M4 and M4 Pro Chips, Two Front USB-C Ports, and More
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You plan to press it often? If so, why?
That’s basically true of anything that has a fan, not a big deal
Eh, it’s a desktop, if you really need a lot of bulk storage an external is not the end of the world
Most people plug this into a display and use the sound out that way, for everyone else (including me) it’s not exactly an issue to toss a USBC DAC on the back, Apple’s are pretty decent but there’s tons of others on amazon
I would expect Asahi will support the M4 shortly FWIW
I get your complaints but they’re mostly either nitpicking or easy fixes
Most people dont upgrade their computers every generation, this is targeted at the last gen intel and first M1 mini users, not the M2 folks. My wife has an M2 mini, she has no reason to upgrade yet
but this is still a rehash of Jony's design
They're still ideologically driven with opting for smaller instead of more selection of ports. It's a desktop computer, it doesn't need to be this small, and one USB-A port won't hurt anyone.
USBA is (finally) dying, and adapters are cheap, removing USBA makes sense. Apple’s actually been less aggressive on this than, say, they did with legacy ports when they started using USBA.but this is still a rehash of Jony's design
They're still ideologically driven with opting for smaller instead of more selection of ports. It's a desktop computer, it doesn't need to be this small, and one USB-A port won't hurt anyone.
And they added the front ports, which is a welcome update. No more need to buy, say, a satechi base just to get nice looking front ports
Pre-ordered base model, with 10gbe as the only upgrade, should be a solid machine
What's the use case for 10gbe? I'm curious, not trying to be smart.
Apple newsroom, the place for press releases. Tomorrow the Macbooks will be announced. But perhaps you have already seen them on youtube. 😉
por que no los dos? remember Power Macs used to have a line out jack in the back and a headphone jack in the front? 😃
I would still opt for a PC if Linux compatibility is important because x86 PCs have more production quality Linux distributions to choose from.
I have a 2018 mini and don't want to part with it because it's Intel based and I know I can run Linux on it when Apple decides to cut it off.
No of course not. There's no way Apple would price it at $599 for the base model if they did.
Apple's prices to upgrade the internal storage are outrageous, but I'm happy to only pay $599 and get 256gb. 256gb is still a huge amount of space for the main system drive. Cheap external storage is ok for everything beyond that. I don't see much difference between 256gb and 512gb because 512gb isn't big enough for everything anyway, so I'm going to need external storage either way... and then might as well go for 1 or 2 TB.
If your are e.g. video editing in FCP from your NAS on your local Network. 10Gb switches are not so much more expensive as a standard switch. So it might be a good investment.What's the use case for 10gbe? I'm curious, not trying to be smart.
My current 2018 Mac Mini setup has speakers attached to the headphone jack because I was having audio drops over TB to Monitor Audio Out to Speakers. Could easily have same problem with new Mini and same monitor.
You forgot to add that almost all desktop "Winblows" PC's come with an audio jack on the front so not sure what your "proper desktop computer" actually is.
“Apple's prices to upgrade the internal storage are outrageous, but I'm happy to only pay $599 and get 256gb. 256gb is still a huge amount of space for the main system drive.”
me too, unless the SSD bandwidth has been gimped for he 256…
me too, unless the SSD bandwidth has been gimped for he 256…
His name is Tim Cooks and his motto is "Don't be poor".
Until we get real performance reviews, you are simply mislead by the marketing team.
Not true and we are talking about a desktop, not a laptop. Funny how the power consumption thing becomes important when it fits a narrative.
Also false and to some people, an external power brick means easy replacement in case of failure.
Again, this is a desktop computer, not a laptop and funny enough, all laptops comes with a external brick.
Sorry my friend, but selective reading is not cool. I clearly stated the internal dust issue, not the fan.
See the other comments in this thread where others did this and still ended with the internal drive full.
Another example of selective reading.
Its a miracle that they got so far in spite of Apple, since Apple doesnt help them at all.
So its not really running at the hardware's full potential, unlike Linux on a x64 PC.
Sorry my friend and do not take this as an insult, but customers like you are the reason why Apple gets away with murder.
I simply provided some points, yet you felt like it was some kind of personal attack.
Apple neither any other company, have their best interest for you, only their bottom line.
Or "audio out" on back and headphone on front, like my $88 Acer PC. Power button on bottom is just stupid.
I have my home wired for 10gbe and have a homelab and NAS in my garage, along with redundant 10gbe links from my garage to my office, having my machines in my office able to access my garage fast is nice and buying another 10gbe thunderbolt NIC is about the same price as just upgrading the internal portWhat's the use case for 10gbe? I'm curious, not trying to be smart.
Well I am overall happy but will wait for reviews, in particular on thermal performance. Still I am excited and it looks like my next computer.
Agreed. If it bothers you, buy a USB-C to 3.5mm jack adapter and plug in the back. So simple.
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Easy there friend, you will give Tim a heart attack by mentioning such things. :-D
My part was clear and I simply stated a more common usage of a desktop computer.
90% of desktop computers that I have worked on, has external speakers.
But the same percentage can be used in Agile offices, which will then be headphones.
Pick your poison.
FACTS. That front audio jack makes this a no go for me.
I own Apple stock and usually buy the maxed out version of Apple computers, phones, AppleTVs, and iPads. But I’m retired now and for home use I really just need the lower end version of the mini which would more than suit my needs for years to come. But it is interesting that with this mini you can go from basic to high end workstation In the same form factor.