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Apple Announces Release of Safari 5 with Extensions - But Where Is It?

NaffanDroo said:
Thats fine, if your job involves just browsing the web... not so fine if you have Virtual machines running, an Eclipse IDE running as well and when Safari eats up 600mb out of my 4Gb of Ram, yes, that is actually a problem.

Things add up when you have to multi task and I've been forced to shut down Safari before due to its growing use of memory. Reopen the same pages again (I use glims plugin) after quitting and you can see that it uses far less memory. Safari has been a bit more hungry for memory than it should be for several releases - you just have to look at the official Mac discussions forums to find posts about it.
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Guess what, so do I!

4Gb in my MacBook Pro and 6Gb Mac Pro. Page outs remain zero whatever i'm doing, especially on the MP!

Close some tabs if it is so critical! Or get more memory! ;)
 
I'm with all those that are happy the old progress indicator is back. Finally! It was one of the reasons I liked safari in the first place. I use the Firefox extension to have it when I'm not on Safari too.
 
Had a quick play with it, all seems fairly good. I love the reader function, surely every browser will have that soon. I hope they bring Reader to the iPad at some point it would be especially good on there.
 
The Reader feature still mystifies me.
In case anyone cares it only works if you go from the main page to an article, loading an article directly doesn't seem to work for me.

Also, it seems like it takes the length of the article into account, short MacRumors news don't seem to work, but longer news get reader enabled.
 
TuffLuffJimmy said:
I'm not big into a lot of those features, but I completely spaced out on Opera turbo and Opera link. I rely too much on those to switch all the way to Safari. I hope Opera gets the same reader functionality as Safari, because I'm finding it incredibly useful.

EDIT: And Opera Firefly is better than any developer tool on any other browser as far as I'm concerned.
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Are you like the only guy using "Firefly"? I literally can't find a reference to it on the web. Opera's latest dev tool, Dragonfly, looks like an uglier version of the Safari dev tools with no additional features, but whatever floats your boat.
 
It's just so weird to see Apple touting a MS product (Bing) so much on their showcase page. I know it's because of their whole Google spat, but come on, get in bed with Yahoo or someone.
 
I guess this was Apple's way of telling me they want me to put out some cas and upgrade to Snow Leopard..... :mad:

(sent using Firefox 3.6.3)

Date/Time: 2010-06-08 09:41:49.433 -0500
OS Version: 10.4.11 (Build 8S2167)
Report Version: 4

Command: Safari
Path: /Applications/Safari.app/Contents/MacOS/Safari
Parent: WindowServer [85]

Version: 4.1 (4533.16)
Build Version: 2
Project Name: WebBrowser
Source Version: 75331600

PID: 665
Thread: 0

Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS (0x0001) at 0xbf7ffff0

Thread 0 Crashed:...
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Wow...

While browsing I didn't notice much difference in terms of speed but opening it up cold start is FAST. Nice job apple. :apple:

Edit:

Macbook Air 1st gen (you know the one), even after a reboot, starting up Safari is instantaneous. Wasn't slow before but this is a nice update to say the least.
 
Has anyone tried the Safari 4 Beta trick with Safari 5 yet to see if it works?

That is where you install the latest version, then replace the Safari.app with the older beta version one. That way you keep the old tabs-on-top/reload button UI but with it using latest version of the libraries and engines.

Not tried myself in case it does not, but I guess with the new Reader feature and in-app extensions I will probably have to upgrade anyway, and go back to the old Safari 3 style interface.

Michael.
 
Safari 5 won't display any web page and keeps crashing for me.

Mac OS X 10.5.8, MacBook Pro 2,53 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo.

PLEASE, anybody have a link to downgrade?

Thanks!
 
Meh, after having used it for a while, I think it's slightly slower than Safari 4.......:mad:
 
Simmias said:
+1
I'd like to use Apple's browser, but there are too many things that still bother me/ don't work the way I'd like. Here are some of the reasons I'll be sticking with Chrome:

-Unified address/search bar. No time for stubbornness here, Apple. Admit that Chrome's way is better and follow suit. Aren't you supposed to be all about streamlined UI?
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I think the jury is out on whether Chrome's way is better. It seems like it should be better, since it's more streamlined. In practice, however, I've found that the unified address/search bar misinterprets my intent often enough that it becomes annoying. I don't think it's a matter of Apple being stubborn (look at how quickly Apple copied top sites) -- it's a legitimate usability debate.

-Tabs on top. A matter of personal preference, but I strongly prefer Chrome's layout.
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As you say, personal preference. To me, the tabs in Safari look better and are just as usable.

-Tab behavior. For example, why can't Safari duplicate a tab with history in tact, which is extremely useful? In Chrome, it's as easy as right clicking the tab - very intuitive.
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Hmmm, never used it. I'll check it out but I suspect it's a feature very few people use. You could also argue that it's an incorrect or at least nonintuitive implementation. Why should one tab have a history of events that took place in a different tab?

-Full screen. Safari reader is nice, but if you want to minimize distractions, why not have a full screen option like every other browser? Sorry, maximize isn't just for Windows dummies.
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Another personal preference, and one that's not shared by most Mac users. I prefer a browser that acts like a real Mac application. Why anyone would want to give up the Mac's superior maximize behavior is a mystery to me.

-Tab key to search any site. Another great feature of the Chrome omnibar. How can Safari tout adding Bing support as a feature? Chrome allows you to set ANY search engine as your default, and switch between them on the fly with the tab to search feature. Congrats, Apple, on adding ONE more choice to your default list.
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That's a great feature in theory but, in practice, very few people care about (or even know of) second or third tier search engines. I know I don't, and should the occasion arise where I do want to check one out, I'll just go to their home page.

I hope Safari copies the best of Chrome while introducing new ideas like the reader. Unfortunately, I have a feeling that Apple will stick to their guns on UI elements like the separate search and address bars, out of pride, when they could be catching up to Google.
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Not surprisingly, Apple actually knows quite a bit about usability and UI design. Calling their choices "pride" is a silly oversimplification that was disproven when Apple copied top sites. And as far as who is catching up to whom, keep in mind that Chrome uses Apple's rendering engine, not the other way around.

The bottom line is that we're fortunate to have several great browsers to choose from on Mac. If you prefer Chrome, good for you. But any attempt to portray Safari as inferior is ridiculous. It's one of the best browsers available on any platform, period.
 
It appears Safari 5 still lacks having a process per tab like Chromium/Google Chrome. This is a major selling point to me. Pages that cause Safari or Firefox to crash or hang and thereby lose all running pages don't in Chrome which remains fully operational, you just kill that single page.

Firefox is supposedly getting this crash resistance very soon, but when is Safari/webkit 2 getting this?
 
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