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Apple Announces Self Service Repair Program, Starting With iPhone 12 and 13
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I am just not sure what the scam you are talking about is.
Do I think this policy will make more authorized dealers scam people: the answer is no.
Do I think this policy will make more non-authorized dealers scam people: the answer is no.
I think if you live in a place where non-authorized dealers are untrustworthy and likely to scam you, then you should fix the device yourself or take it to an authorized dealer. This policy won't change that.
I think if you live in a place where authorized dealers are untrustworthy and likely to scam you, than you are out of luck, but again this new policy won't change that in anyway, and now at least you can fix the device yourself with real parts.
Why does it not benefit consumers?
As a consumer, now I can fix my own device with real parts.
Before this policy, when I fix my own device I could only get cheap parts.
This policy is good for me. I am a consumer.
from logic thinking, the fix & repair should allowed only with general available tools.....example, you can fix your car with any DIY tools, beyond that is consider for expert repairs but not consumers.
Yes, it hurts all consumers.
check this out below:
Fake AirPods with real serial number
Fake AirPods with real serial number - Apple Community
And please check this Youtube:
If you still don't understand what Apple try to do to stop the counterfeit, check this amazing YouTube:
this video is taken in 2017
it open up and allow more 3rd party parts & modification to your iPhone now. Now it is legal to fix. No way Apple can control the parts/fix issues/counterfeit/modifications...
the new policy didn't benefit consumers, it's only benefit to non-authorized repair dealers....and yet, they can get the manual how to open up and how to replace the parts now...officially. Maybe they will force Apple to teach them too via a class/course to do it.
BTW, as an engineer, you should already know there is no way for individual replacement cost is lower than the mass production. Unless, you use a 3rd party or lower quality parts.
producing electronic parts in 10 pcs vs 1,000,000,0000 pcs is totally at different level of efficiency and cost. And the cost of reverse engineering.
I agreed ppl can do the DIY at their like, but it shouldn't be a law to force company to open up all the detail inside & force to allow repair of the small tiny things. it will have reverse effects.
You may also want to check how company protect their IP thru make difficult for competitor to reverse engineer their products. And some company reverse engineered good products and make a copy from there. Is reverse Engineering Against law? I think nope.
Same case, selling cheap products like Xiaomi, Huawei is good news for poor people. Maybe selling clone products/counterfeit copy of AirPods in the market will give more benefits (& choice) to consumers! more than this new policy.
I can't afford iPhone, I can get Xiaomi as the design inside is the same.
I can't afford Dyson, I can get Xiaomi as the design is the same, same functionality too.
Yes, I understand.
Reverse engineering is legal for trade secret. It is not legal for patent.
I just do not think this new policy from Apple (it is policy change, not law change) will have such a big impact. Before it was legal to repair your own phone with any parts you want. Modify phone with custom parts was also legal. No law has changed.
I think consumer have choice. They can buy genuine phone directly from Apple. They can have phone fixed at authorized dealer if they want genuine parts. Or they can buy modified phone from third party. They can repair phone from third party with cheap parts. Both are OK. The consumer can choose.
I agree this policy will help non-authorized repair store. But non-authorized repair store are small. Big company like Xiaomi will copy Apple products. Small non-authorized repair store cannot compete with Xiaomi. Apple selling parts to consumers will not reveal any hidden secrets that company like Xiaomi doesn't already know.
unsubstantiated claims that have been proven wrong by facts are not ‘views’, and calling them such doesn’t change the reality of things. Eco waste and the damage it creates exist, pretending otherwise does not make them disappear.
When it happens in America, it will apply to other countries as well, eg: China. Now Apple will also supply the parts information & documents to consumers in China. What do you think?
Perhaps one day Americans request a repair for logic board, then we will have more detail about the Apple Chip design and architecture, with the official Apple Documents. no need to send for x-ray anymore.
Another will be side loading in iOS, and the open-up payment method. If all this passed, I think we will see a lot more interesting China made software/products in the market. Huawei HarmoneyOS is going smooth now, with that, probably they can win Apple again. Not too surprised.
All the big data and tracking can definitely help to AI, and ofcos they need to collect the data as much as possible, including your ID, healthcare, GPS, etc.
I think Apple will only sell very simple parts for DIY. Like battery. Like full screen assembly. They will not sell complicated parts for professionals or give information on chip design/architecture. So it will be OK.
Yes, I do worry about this. There is a lot of pressure for Apple to open software on iOS. Security on the software is important. Like you said, the phone is very personal and it is important to keep security high.
I hope that one day there will be laws on what information company can collect. Or at least give consumer option to not collect information. It will be interesting to see what happens.
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We use to have registered-free sim card, then we need to register for a sim. Imaging ppl use your line to do criminal or call 911 for fun.
People keep talking about knock-off parts but its not quite as simple as that. The two most commonly replaced parts in iPhones are the screens and batteries.
Apple has their batteries made by a manufacturing contractor (Typically they have at least two suppliers for any part). The replacement battery market is a combination of copies which could accurately be described as knock-off though this doesn't mean they are bad or even inferior, that depends how well they are made. Many car spares are not made by the original makers and their quality varies too. The worst offenders though are batteries that have simply had their charge cycle counters reset and a new piece of snazzy black plastic wrapped around them. Sometimes its gold plastic and sometimes they claim higher capacity than the originals too.
These ones might actually be originals but they are pulled used from damaged units, or just thrown away because they have exceeded their useful life. You can get these terrible batteries for as little as $5. iFixit will charge you at least $20 for a battery for an old model phone. These are likely to be a much better bet than a $5 eBay purchase.
Then theres the screens.
The LCDs are not usually the issue. The part that breaks is the touch panel glass glued on top. There is a big industry of what I assume is third world sweatshop child labour cutting the old glass off the screen assembly and glueing a new one in place. The glass is a knock off part but the LCD is original Apple most of the time. The touch panels actually tend to work pretty well. The failure rate is probably a little higher than Apple but the bigger difference is the glass is not gorilla glass and breaks much more easily. These remanufactured parts are available for as little as $20 for an old model. iPhone 7 maybe. An iPhone X or 11 is more like $80-$120. Apple will charge a lot more than that. $200-300 or even more.
It comes down to effort and trust. f you buy from eBay or Amazon you never know who is selling. There are plenty of people selling cheap junk and working on the basis that if it fails they can afford to send you another that probably won't. More reputable vendors like iFixit should be testing pulled or replica parts thoroughly and offering full warranties, doing due diligence to make sure the batteries are genuine and not reset and testing them under lab conditions to check they are putting out voltages and currents that won't fry your phone or cause an explosion. Whether you trust that they actually do all this or cut corners and tell lies is down to the consumer. Typically their reputation will bare the truth after a little while.
Apple has their batteries made by a manufacturing contractor (Typically they have at least two suppliers for any part). The replacement battery market is a combination of copies which could accurately be described as knock-off though this doesn't mean they are bad or even inferior, that depends how well they are made. Many car spares are not made by the original makers and their quality varies too. The worst offenders though are batteries that have simply had their charge cycle counters reset and a new piece of snazzy black plastic wrapped around them. Sometimes its gold plastic and sometimes they claim higher capacity than the originals too.
These ones might actually be originals but they are pulled used from damaged units, or just thrown away because they have exceeded their useful life. You can get these terrible batteries for as little as $5. iFixit will charge you at least $20 for a battery for an old model phone. These are likely to be a much better bet than a $5 eBay purchase.
Then theres the screens.
The LCDs are not usually the issue. The part that breaks is the touch panel glass glued on top. There is a big industry of what I assume is third world sweatshop child labour cutting the old glass off the screen assembly and glueing a new one in place. The glass is a knock off part but the LCD is original Apple most of the time. The touch panels actually tend to work pretty well. The failure rate is probably a little higher than Apple but the bigger difference is the glass is not gorilla glass and breaks much more easily. These remanufactured parts are available for as little as $20 for an old model. iPhone 7 maybe. An iPhone X or 11 is more like $80-$120. Apple will charge a lot more than that. $200-300 or even more.
It comes down to effort and trust. f you buy from eBay or Amazon you never know who is selling. There are plenty of people selling cheap junk and working on the basis that if it fails they can afford to send you another that probably won't. More reputable vendors like iFixit should be testing pulled or replica parts thoroughly and offering full warranties, doing due diligence to make sure the batteries are genuine and not reset and testing them under lab conditions to check they are putting out voltages and currents that won't fry your phone or cause an explosion. Whether you trust that they actually do all this or cut corners and tell lies is down to the consumer. Typically their reputation will bare the truth after a little while.