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Apple Announces The iPhone

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I agree...Cingular is great in Bay Area!

redskinsf said:
Not sure how long you've been living in the Bay Area... I've been here almost 4 years and Cingular by far has the best service and reception here. Tmobile is the worst, and Verizon comes in after that. Its truly a matter of opinion. My cingular 8525 gets perfect reception and call quality, and the 3g internet capabilites are great here. I'm sure the iPhone will have excellent call quality and internet service.
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I've always had cingular...in Berkeley, Mountainview, now santa cruz... Cingular has had great reception everywhere I go. Meanwhile my relatives have gone through several other carriers, just trying to get reception in their homes.

That being said, I was still willing to switch to any carrier to get this phone.
 
who on earth gives a stuff about cingular... no such thing here in Australia.

This is exactly what I was hoping for... ipod functionality (awesome interface), an OS X-like OS... lovely. no doubt it will definately have all the stuff a PDA has (calendar, etc)

I want it, but when am I going to see it?

So much talk about phone networks.... which means absolutely zero to me when I'm not in the USA...

hrmmm
 
Abercrombieboy said:
What does free contract mean? No monthly phone bill? Right now any carrier will give you a "free" contract, but you still have a monthly bill to pay.
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I understand that free means you are free to choose whether to use contract (with monthly fees of course), or take the phone elsewhere (for the same price) - as opposed to most current contracts where you only get the phone for a certain price if you honour the 2 year contract.

Cybix said:
So much talk about phone networks.... which means absolutely zero to me when I'm not in the USA...
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It does to me since i want to buy it in the US and bring it back to Oz! Hope i can...
 
smueboy said:
I understand that free means you are free to choose whether to use contract (with monthly fees of course), or take the phone elsewhere (for the same price) - as opposed to most current contracts where you only get the phone for a certain price if you honour the 2 year contract.
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Thanks...I figured it was something like that. Oh well, considering a GSM phone is worthless in the upper midwest and west I won't be getting one anytime soon.

I am sure however after 2008 if this thing really does take off like the iPod did you will see a CDMA version come out for the other carriers. No matter what anyone says the US CDMA market is HUGE. Way too large to ignore if your product is successful. I can see why Apple started with GSM though because of worldwide availability.
 
What about the possibility to open .doc/.pdf files. I use my blackberry (with metadata) to open .doc files and it's a painful experience...

No 3G is a disappointment but it'll probably come in Rev2 (for the European/Asian markets).

Also memory is far too limited - hopefully that will be fixed by June.

Haven't been in the US long enough to know about the various carriers (moved to NYC in October and am on tmobile) but so far my experience has been pretty bad:

1. Can't believe I am paying for INCOMING calls !?!
2. No service in the Subway !?!?! We have had it in France for at least three years...
3. Terrible voicemail - takes too long to access messages or to delete them.

Anyway for such a costly product I expect to be able to test it before I buy it. Will make a determination at that point.
 
cost of Internet access?

I could maybe manage to convince myself to pay the way-too-high-for-me price for the iPhone. But it seems like it wouldn't be worth it unless it had Internet access. From looking at the Cingular site that would cost $40 a month for an unlimited plan? Isn't that really high compared to other providers? I think T-Mobile is $20 a month, and that includes laptop HotSpot usage also.

Having to pay $600 for the phone and an extra $40 a month is WAY too much for me.
 
MacVault said:
Apple showed us the handheld device of our dreams - ABSOLUTELY AMAZING DEVICE! And then they have the $%#^&%$ nerve to say we can get this device ONLY if we sign a $%#^&%$ TWO YEAR contract!:mad: !:mad: !:mad:

I am absolutely beside myself??? I can't have the "Widescreen Video iPod" without being LOCKED IN with a two year contract???? $##@%@! Am I the only one TOTALLY P1$$3D? Not to mention not a word about Leopard!

WTF! :mad: :mad: :mad:
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Quoted for emphasis.

WTF 2 years… I'd do business with Apple. Why would I need to involve a third party to obtain a device?

Screw contracts. :rolleyes:
 
kildjean said:
Since when could you run Unix on your palm of your hand in such an easy way. Kil
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The Sharp Zarus PDA ran Linux years ago. I think they still make them in Japan. Many Linux apps merely had to be recompiled to run on it. I had a WiFi CF card in mine... it was basically a linux computer in my hand. I could SSH, VNC, or whatever I wanted.

However, I say this to emphasize your point, not to criticize it. Everyone is saying that this can't be the "real" OS X. Well, I have news for them: Linux, BSD and other Unix flavors are NOT Windows XP/Vista. The kernel of these systems is small and suitable for consumer devices. And it is the same kernel that your desktop Linux distro would run, minus the fancy KDE or Gnome window manager. I suspect this is exactly what Apple has done. Not only that but Steve mentioned that the Core APIs are there as well.
 
Sniff. The music features of this make my 3rd generation iPod look so ancient by conparison...at least they appear to be moving away from the click wheel though. I've never been a fan of that which is a big reason I keep holding onto my old friend instead of upgrading to a newer model.

This blows my original 2nd generation 20 GB iPod (that cost $500) completely out of the water in every regard except capacity. Wow. But as a "locked into a contract but happy with my service" Verizon user, I don't know if I'll be switching to Cingular to get this, though I may change my mind once I get to play with one in a store.

I hope they release the 6th generation iPod to be just like this except to replace the phone capabilities with an 80 or 100 GB hard drive. That, I would buy immediately!
 
I cant wait too see Rev.B :) hopefully by than it will be an unlocked version.

With some more goodies...

- UMTS or HSDPA
- 16 Gb NAND Flash (14 Gb for music / video // 2 Gb for software)
- Quicktime
- iChat
- 5 Megapixel (auto-focus)
- Front VGA (for iChat / Conference calls)
- Slingmobile (hopefully Sling and Apple work together)
- GPS (I know it has Google Maps. Would be nice to have an active GPS, if you do get lost, you know where you actually are)
- 6-8 hours talk time / 24 hours of video or audio playback

I would not mind spending a good $800 US on a phone like that.
 
Abercrombieboy said:
Thanks...I figured it was something like that. Oh well, considering a GSM phone is worthless in the upper midwest and west I won't be getting one anytime soon.

I am sure however after 2008 if this thing really does take off like the iPod did you will see a CDMA version come out for the other carriers. No matter what anyone says the US CDMA market is HUGE. Way too large to ignore if your product is successful. I can see why Apple started with GSM though because of worldwide availability.
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GSM is fine as long as you are on a paved road or in an area with a population sign…

Cingular GSM Map scroll down and click thumbnail
 
lseven said:
I could maybe manage to convince myself to pay the way-too-high-for-me price for the iPhone. But it seems like it wouldn't be worth it unless it had Internet access. From looking at the Cingular site that would cost $40 a month for an unlimited plan? Isn't that really high compared to other providers? I think T-Mobile is $20 a month, and that includes laptop HotSpot usage also.

Having to pay $600 for the phone and an extra $40 a month is WAY too much for me.
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Couldn't you just pay for a voice-only plan and then only utilize internet/email when you have access to a wi-fi signal? Sure you wouldn't be able to access the web anywhere you wanted, but you could save some money each month and still use it the coffee shop/airport/on campus/at the hotel/in your livingroom/anywhere else you can get wifi?
 
It's a cool phone, I'll admit...

But it's six months away. I don't own a teevee and haven't since I left home in '85, so I couldn't possibly care less about the apple TV.

I want a reason to buy a new computer to replace my G4 1Mhz iMac. I want the new version of OS X. I also want a reason to upgrade my 3G 30gig iPod, i.e. a widescreen 100gig iPod. I want a computer with a Blu-ray drive that will play HD movies. Instead, I got nothing.

Apple's stock price is up and I'm glad about that, but for now my money stays in my pocket.

:(
 
yes, ichat AV and Quicktime streaming would definintly make me want to buy an iphone... until then, I guess I'll stick with my crappy verizon phone...

jesteraver said:
I cant wait too see Rev.B :) hopefully by than it will be an unlocked version.

With some more goodies...

- UMTS or HSDPA
- 16 Gb NAND Flash (14 Gb for music / video // 2 Gb for software)
- Quicktime
- iChat
- 5 Megapixel (auto-focus)
- Front VGA (for iChat / Conference calls)
- Slingmobile (hopefully Sling and Apple work together)
- GPS (I know it has Google Maps. Would be nice to have an active GPS, if you do get lost, you know where you actually are)
- 6-8 hours talk time / 24 hours of video or audio playback

I would not mind spending a good $800 US on a phone like that.
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wouldnt it be sick if apple released a true video ipod as the iphone minus the phone capabilites for like 150 less? (still wifi)

and also...steve said that apple TV can transmit video in 720p, but is any itunes content that high quality? (such as movies or tv shows)
 
Not for Verizon!

I can't believe it's only for Cingular!!!???!?!!! I thought before, according to other sources, that it would be for all carriers. I have Verizon and I am so mad!!! I'm not going to be able to switch for another 2 YEARS!!! I heard from someone that Apple doesn't like Verizon for some reason. Anyone have any information about it?

The iPhone though is the Best!!! It has such great features!!
 
drumnkyle said:
I can't believe it's only for Cingular!!!???!?!!! I thought before, according to other sources, that it would be for all carriers. I have Verizon and I am so mad!!! I'm not going to be able to switch for another 2 YEARS!!! I heard from someone that Apple doesn't like Verizon for some reason. Anyone have any information about it?

The iPhone though is the Best!!! It has such great features!!
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Probably because Verizon requires all of their phones to run the same Verizon OS and not the OS that the manufacturer created.

It's good in that you don't have to learn a new phone OS each time you get a new phone.

But it's bad in that it really isn't hard to learn a new phone OS...and that Verison's OS is absolute garbage!
 
One thing I cant believe the iPhone will be in Europe Q4 2007. Europe uses UMTS, not EDGE. Thats a bad move on their part. Plus Asia is pretty much using UMTS / HSDPA right now.

As much as I like Apple. They are far behind with the technology thats for sure.
 
m-dogg said:
I hope they release the 6th generation iPod to be just like this except to replace the phone capabilities with an 80 or 100 GB hard drive. That, I would buy immediately!
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Totally. I dont see myself using that as a phone but definitly as a ipod, movie player and even as portable internet around the home
 
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