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Apple Announces The iPhone

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Bonte said:
I think there is some misunderstanding in pricing and features, this is how i understand it.

The iPhone costs $499 and $599 with a free 2 year cingular contract, the iPhone is NOT locked so can be used with any other service. Steve did not say it was locked to cingular, he just stated the price and the cingular guy added the free 2 year contract. Its a new way of thinking, its not the phones that will be free but the contracts. An unlocked phone but only for sale with Apple and cingular the first 2 years.
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I HIGHLY doubt this is the case. You have to sign a 2 year contract with Cingular to get the phone for this price. While I am not happy with Cingular, I cannot wait to sign their contract to get this PDA/iPOD/iPhone/Computer.
 
I do not know if I am the first person to say this but I was looking at it over at apple web sight and well personly I think the phone is kind of crappy. It looksl ike it fails when it comes to the easy to use part of being a phone. It has to much stuff going on with the screen and no easy way to control it.
It is clearly not a phone I would ever use or like. Yeah it is made by apple but for apple quility it looks like it failed. It has to much and does not look like it is going to be that easy to use. It fails in it most basic funition and that is being an easy to use phone.
Now as an ipod interface all that looks pretty promising or even a semi desent palm. But the currently things out there that are a PDA/Phone combo do a much better job in there primary funtion as being a phone. Apple seems to of failed at the primary goal of making a it a PHONE. A phone main thing is to be easy to dail numbers and contacts.
 
A fantastic device, but woefully lacking in storage. I was expecting 30 or 80 gigs, as with the latest iPods. Otherwise, you must still have a phone and an iPod. I won't invest in one until they near that range.
 
The only thing truly groundbreaking about this phone is a real web browser. It does a lot of things better than other phones, but it does the SAME things.

It is NOT revelutionary.

It probably will sell well, but they are doing into a tough market, with a lot of people locked into contracts already.

(snore)......
 
brian928 said:
To me its just an ipod that 1. you have to pay a monthly service for and 2. must be a cingular customer to use, what good is that?
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But, since the iphone has both Bluetooth and WiFi, you don't necessarily need to use it as a phone. Couldn't you surf the web or check email anywhere you find a hotspot? I think it's great to have a slightly bigger screen to watch movies, a portable jukebox, and mini-computer rolled into one small box. But, 8GB capacity--OUCH! You can't fit too many movies and music on that.
 
Personally, I'll be biding my time with this one. I had to raise my eyebrows about the 3G. One that it doesn't have it, and two - that people here immediately start saying "who wants 3G?"

well guess what 3G is good for? Data transfer rates. When you're using Google Maps on your iPhone, you'll know why you need 3G. It's like the difference between Dial-up and Broadband. Trust me.

To join in that clamour of voices, I think I'll wait for the 2nd revision. I'm looking for way bigger capacity and 3G for sure!
 
Data rates/switchers

I wonder how many people this will bring in as "switchers." From the perspective of people switching from PC to Mac because of the "halo effect." That would be good.

The "switchers" I am wondering about more are the people that don't currently have data plans on their cell phones. Seeing all these applications might entice people to get data plans on their cell phones. Hopefully this would lower data rates?

Also the use of WiFi could help with this, as it would provide competition for Cingular and other carriers on their data plans.
 
wildmac said:
The only thing truly groundbreaking about this phone is a real web browser. It does a lot of things better than other phones, but it does the SAME things.

It is NOT revelutionary.

It probably will sell well, but they are doing into a tough market, with a lot of people locked into contracts already.

(snore)......
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Sorry, but does any other phone have a buttonless touch screen interface?
 
This territory needed to be covered. Steve aced it!

Apple had every right to ignore the Mac. They are as close to perfect as the "state-of-the-art" will let them be. You don't fix what isn't broken!


:)
 
Something else came to mind...

Since it's also a phone, I wonder if you'll be able to use this to watch movies or listen to music while on a flight. The last time I traveled (December 2006), the flight crew asked that you turn cell phones completely off and not turn them on again until after we landed. If you can't turn off the phone functionality of the iPhone independently of the iPod functionality, there might be a lot of disappointed business travelers who are eyeing the iPhone.
 
ccroo said:
Won'tcha be constantly smudging up that beautiful screen by dragging your finger all over it?
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You'll have to clean the cheetos off of your fingers before answering a call. :D

I love this thing. I currently have SPRINT and will switch to Cingular IF the phone is compatible with the next generation EDGE system. It would have been cool to see this sucker with EV-DO.

Looking back... think of how sad those people were that bought the Motorola RKR or whatever it was called.

Anybody shocked about the capacity as much as I was? Running an OS and storing music... not much space left on it. Did they say there was external memory available too?
 
$600? Wow, sucks to be the people who just had to have this! Oh well you all have 6 months to save!
 
ShermDog said:
But, since the iphone has both Bluetooth and WiFi, you don't necessarily need to use it as a phone. Couldn't you surf the web or check email anywhere you find a hotspot? I think it's great to have a slightly bigger screen to watch movies, a portable jukebox, and mini-computer rolled into one small box. But, 8GB capacity--OUCH! You can't fit too many movies and music on that.
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now repeat that argument and plug in "treo." would you buy a treo just to surf the web and watch movies? probably not. don't get me wrong, the iphone is a VERY cool device...it definitely has the "gotta have it" factor, far beyond a treo or blackberry...my only fear is that i'll be the poor shlub that goes and says "oh screw it, i'm just gonna get it and not use the phone function." then jobs will announce the next day that they are releasing a non-phone version of it with 20x the storage... DOH!

i do hear you though...if this were 100 gig, you could make the argument that it would still be worth it to own the device and just not use the phone function...the storage is DEFINITELY the bigger dissapointment.

Thing is, for those of us who have been holding off on buying the current video ipod to see what pannned out of the rumors on the touch screen...it almost seems silly to buy the existing version now, knowing that that big beautiful screen is out there :) i guess i'll continue to wait until the storage comes up and just stay happy with my nano for now....
 
ShermDog said:
Since it's also a phone, I wonder if you'll be able to use this to watch movies or listen to music while on a flight. The last time I traveled (December 2006), the flight crew asked that you turn cell phones completely off and not turn them on again until after we landed. If you can't turn off the phone functionality of the iPhone independently of the iPod functionality, there might be a lot of disappointed business travelers who are eyeing the iPhone.
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I guess it'll have a flight mode.

Plus I think some airlines (Emirates for one) are beginning to allow passengers to use phones during flight, so if the technology improves and it catches on there won't be a problem.
 
iPhone Camera

Hi,

I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere. I would like to know if anybody knows if the iPhone camera is capable of taking video?

thanks!

Looks good!
 
SJ they have redefined the smartphone, it looks all good, but to be a smartphone it must at minimum:

1. sync to computer == yes
2. install third party applications

(2) - this is big question, if it cannot install third party applications then I don't consider it a smartphone - its a regular phone with a pretty interface - ala SonyEricsson non-UIQ smartphone ( except you can still install software on these - i.e., games but still not considered smartphone - i.e., K800 etc ).

Also, does it support J2ME - if not, why not? There are a lot of good Java applications out there - especially games.

Thirdly how much internal memory does it have - all well as good mentioning flash ram size - but that is different than internal memory and affects how the phone will perform.

When does it come to Canada - the price out of contract?
 
What do people think about it being a 'blackberry killer' or replacing sidekicks? I honestly use my Treo alot for text messaging and even though i love the chat-like sms (similar to treo in a way), i dont know about texting alot using the on-screen keyboard. Also, for the same reason, what about people replacing their other smartphone/pdas?
 
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I know this has been said before by me and a few others here. Apple should up it to 16 GB and charge $800 to $1000 for the phone. They should raise the price up so the people who owns the RAZR or KRZR can't afford to buy it. I think Apple should charge as much as the market will bear, and I think the iPhone can be considered a luxury iteam thus command a premium price.

The objective is not to sell a million phone with a $50 profit per phone, rather sell 1/4 of a million with a profit of say $200 per phone. Just my 2 cents.

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Hmm, when will Calendar be included?

For business and some private uses, sure would be nice to have a Calendar tool. At least it should work with iCal.
 
valiums said:
Hi,

I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere. I would like to know if anybody knows if the iPhone camera is capable of taking video?

thanks!

Looks good!
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Hold on, I'll try mine?

All I know is that I'm disappointed about GSM. Verizon upgraded my city to EvDO on 12/9 and I have charged my phone 1 time since that day. My calls are better than land line and I can get rock solid 150Kbps downloads on my Powerbook over bluetooth (free, it just uses minutes!). Unless the iPhone can do all that, I will hold out to see what happens.
 
jessica. said:
$600? Wow, sucks to be the people who just had to have this! Oh well you all have 6 months to save!
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Well you could always just invest $100 every month in apple and maybe you'll make some good extra cash in 6 months off their stock to pay for it!
 
Stella said:
(2) - this is big question, if it cannot install third party applications then I don't consider it a smartphone - its a regular phone with a pretty interface - ala SonyEricsson non-UIQ smartphone ( except you can still install software on these - i.e., games but still not considered smartphone - i.e., K800 etc ).
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One word. Dashcode.

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Mr. Pippin said:
For business and some private uses, sure would be nice to have a Calendar tool. At least it should work with iCal.
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Voila - 2nd app.

Just imagine the possibilities of using OS X on this phone - imagine the games you can play too!
 
badboibillie said:
What do people think about it being a 'blackberry killer' or replacing sidekicks? I honestly use my Treo alot for text messaging and even though i love the chat-like sms (similar to treo in a way), i dont know about texting alot using the on-screen keyboard. Also, for the same reason, what about people replacing their other smartphone/pdas?
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The blackberry is not even in the same league. Please:D
 
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