Does this dam thing which i can't wait to get my sweaty hands on
SUPPORT VOIP or not?
If it does than BYE BYE NOKIA
i doubt it, maybe at ur home, connect to internet, and install an VoIP software (if it will allow u).
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i doubt it, maybe at ur home, connect to internet, and install an VoIP software (if it will allow u).
Is this your opinion or fact? not really talking about voip software but about the phone having voip integrated within root, like plug in STUN numbers etc etc etc.
From what i heard last year, ichat will support VOIP. NOt sure why this thread isn't talking about VOIP; BUt this technology could by pass CINGULAR rates internationally. no joke.
Mac OS X is associated with the Mac (desktops, and laptops). Could excluding the word "Mac" be really a marketing ploy to avoid associating the iPhone to a computer?
Clearly Apple is trying NOT to brand the iPhone as a "computing device". That image is best left for UMPCs, blackberries and Palm. With iPhone, it is definitely targeting the everyday consumer, ones that don't require crazy documents editing and all the other silly add-ons. It's an everyday device, not a decked out elite computing gadget.
Personally, I have no worries about Mac OS X. Apple is branching out to different divisions.
Yes, I was asking a question whether the prices includes unlimited voice and data. If Apple can revolutionalise digital music with a $0.99 price per song, I'm sure there was pressure against Cingular and future "partnered" carriers to come up with a price plan that is different than the current market.
I mean, part of the reason why phones are crippled is because carriers charge extra or differently for data usages, text messages, voice calls at certain time of day and day of week. With these archaic prices, people will limit their usage, thus using only a certain percentage of the phone's functionality. I for example, haven't used video call on my 3G phone because my carrier charges extra for it. For this reason, I see Apple flexing their muscles to revolutionalise mobile price plans to be unlimited voice/data. The iPhone need to be "always" connected to 100% utilise the phone and communicator functions. I don't think Apple will partner with any carriers that will not offer unlimited everything. It's all coming clear now!
According to what I'm reading on the net. Here's one from thinksecret http://www.thinksecret.com/news/0609cingulariphone.html
Every other GSM phone can be unlocked. I think it costs $200 to get out of your Cingular contract. So you could sign up for the contract, get a phone for $600, pay $200 to get out of the contract, unlock the phone, pop in a T-mobile or other GSM carrier SIM card. If it is easily unlocked.
texting
Let me put it this way, when a girl texted me, I called her back and said, "What are you twelve?"
Twelve year olds don't drive sales on a $500 integrated device.
Let me put it this way, when a girl texted me, I called her back and said, "What are you twelve?"
Twelve year olds don't drive sales on a $500 integrated device.
Is this your opinion or fact? not really talking about voip software but about the phone having voip integrated within root, like plug in STUN numbers etc etc etc.
From what i heard last year, ichat will support VOIP. NOt sure why this thread isn't talking about VOIP; BUt this technology could by pass CINGULAR rates internationally. no joke.
VOIP is not mentioned as a feature. Most likely the iphone will not support this now. However, you know this is going to be an evolving product. It is afterall still vaporware and anything can happen.
Heh Whatever
I live in Alaska and guess what, we don't have Cingular or AT&T service here.
So, I get lie about where I live buy the phone/contract then somehow get out of paying the $200 cancellation fee and then just hope someone releases an unlock crack/hack so it will work on another GSM network and not brick the phone in the process.
My only hope is Apple will sell a unlocked world traveler version like Palm does for the Treo.
I live in Alaska and guess what, we don't have Cingular or AT&T service here.
So, I get lie about where I live buy the phone/contract then somehow get out of paying the $200 cancellation fee and then just hope someone releases an unlock crack/hack so it will work on another GSM network and not brick the phone in the process.
My only hope is Apple will sell a unlocked world traveler version like Palm does for the Treo.
Absolutely fantastic this phone!
booooooooo@ all you complainers ,whiners and pissy pants
Check this out...
Scott Kurtz writes a gaming oriented webcomic called PVP. A while back he switched to Mac and took no end of crap from the gaming crowd, but stands firm that switching to Mac was one the best things he's ever done. Today's comic about the iPhone is great:
http://www.pvponline.com/
Scott Kurtz writes a gaming oriented webcomic called PVP. A while back he switched to Mac and took no end of crap from the gaming crowd, but stands firm that switching to Mac was one the best things he's ever done. Today's comic about the iPhone is great:
http://www.pvponline.com/
Not gonna be an issue I think. Smartphones are for tech geeks, and those people usually have a USB connector somewhere. Besides, it does not seem you are supposed to sync it via Bluetooth or wireless, so every time you sync it, you might as well leave it in the dock until you're going out again. Do you know anyone who carries a spare battery for the cell phone all the time? I always get those e-mails at work, where people ask "does any one have a Nokia charger I can borrow for 20 minutes?". Now all you need is a iPod-cable and the Apple iPod AC-Adapter or any USB port. Those AC Adapters are GREAT by the way. Super small, you can fold the pins on the US version so it's even smaller (like the power brick on the laptops) and you're all set. Seriously, I wish I could also charge my current phone and camera via USB, would make my life a lot easier.
By the way, I do carry both batteries for my camera sometimes, because you can hardly fill half of the 1GB memory card with one battery. It's a canon Powershot SD630.
I think it's a scaled version of OS X. Maybe kind of like D*mn Small Linux is a scaled, but quite functional, version of Linux, for instance, to be used when limited space is available.
Is this your opinion or fact? not really talking about voip software but about the phone having voip integrated within root, like plug in STUN numbers etc etc etc.
From what i heard last year, ichat will support VOIP. NOt sure why this thread isn't talking about VOIP; BUt this technology could by pass CINGULAR rates internationally. no joke.
Considering that the phone supports WiFi access, it should support VoIP when the application is available. By June, Skype could have a version of the Mac OS X client running on it.
Yes, I was asking a question whether the prices includes unlimited voice and data. If Apple can revolutionalise digital music with a $0.99 price per song, I'm sure there was pressure against Cingular and future "partnered" carriers to come up with a price plan that is different than the current market.
I mean, part of the reason why phones are crippled is because carriers charge extra or differently for data usages, text messages, voice calls at certain time of day and day of week. With these archaic prices, people will limit their usage, thus using only a certain percentage of the phone's functionality. I for example, haven't used video call on my 3G phone because my carrier charges extra for it. For this reason, I see Apple flexing their muscles to revolutionalise mobile price plans to be unlimited voice/data. The iPhone need to be "always" connected to 100% utilise the phone and communicator functions. I don't think Apple will partner with any carriers that will not offer unlimited everything. It's all coming clear now!
According to what I'm reading on the net. Here's one from thinksecret http://www.thinksecret.com/news/0609cingulariphone.html
Sorry your info is all wrong. The ThinkSecret link is from september of 2006.
Watch the keynote and read the information on Apple's site. No need to llok at old eroneous rumors.
The iPhone will be released in June and initially only available in the US through Cingular and Apple with a 2 year Cingular contract. The price that Apple quoted is the phone price only. The 2 year contract with Cingular will be priced based on the normal plan rates. There are so many options that I can't go into it now but Cingular is not cheap especially for text and data.
ONe just has to be with cingular for three months and they WILL give you the unlock codes. I've done it with many phones since i started with cingualr 3 years ago. I called today and the rep said "sure when you get the iphone we'll give you the unlock codes with 14 days after requesing it"
oh yeah baby
oh yeah baby
iPhone & Apple repent!
OK .... I confess.
I'm a "NAY-SAYER". I thought all the rumors were false and thought TOO MUCH HYPE was impossible to believe. For Shame I should've known better. This isn't Microsoft we're talking, dreaming, hoping, drooling about. This isnt a lack luster company like DELL that cheap corporations purchase from. This is rumors about a product CONCEIVED BY, LOVED BY, DEVELOPED BY, and TESTED BY those unique thinkers that love their lives, their loved ones, working with their colleagues. This is by ppl that enjoy working with their computers and have full control over them NOT the other way around like I do TS for with Windows.
This is APPLE!
This is from a company that was built on the promise to make using computing & our digital life powerful yet simple! Allowing us to enjoy our lives not be a slave to life.
I repent my foolish remarks regarding the iPHONE!
I wont doubt Apple's abilities ever again no matter HOW tough times get.
OK .... I confess.
I'm a "NAY-SAYER". I thought all the rumors were false and thought TOO MUCH HYPE was impossible to believe. For Shame I should've known better. This isn't Microsoft we're talking, dreaming, hoping, drooling about. This isnt a lack luster company like DELL that cheap corporations purchase from. This is rumors about a product CONCEIVED BY, LOVED BY, DEVELOPED BY, and TESTED BY those unique thinkers that love their lives, their loved ones, working with their colleagues. This is by ppl that enjoy working with their computers and have full control over them NOT the other way around like I do TS for with Windows.
This is APPLE!
This is from a company that was built on the promise to make using computing & our digital life powerful yet simple! Allowing us to enjoy our lives not be a slave to life.
I repent my foolish remarks regarding the iPHONE!
I wont doubt Apple's abilities ever again no matter HOW tough times get.
It sounds like they will sell unlocked world versions but not until late 2007 or early 2008.
It's not a hard drive, it's a flash drive, which are smaller capacity but give the iPhone 2 important advantages that the iPhone needs to be the resounding home run that it is. Firstly, flash is much more rugged than a hard drive, and secondly, it is much smaller than even the smallest hard drive. Apple made the right call in going with a smaller capacity flash drive instead of a larger hard drive.
Yeah, but then what trade-off would you be willing to accept for more storage? A larger, heavier unit due to the HDD which would then be required, or a much higher price tag due to the cost of larger capacity flash chips?
Any rumors about low end phone?
Looks like a great phone and iPod. Two issues for me:
1. Too expensive, ie too high end. No way they're going to sell 10million phones at this price. I hope they have a lower end phone in the works. I'd be interested in the rumor chocolate like phone, basic phone with iPod for lots less $$. I'd even consider bailing from my Sprint contract to Cingular, for a lower priced phone.
2. EDGE is the supported network protocol. That too slow to reasonably do many of the things he's demoing, web browsing with lots of images becomes painfully slow. If you had higher speed, you could consider doing iChat, but not with EDGE.
Looks like a great phone and iPod. Two issues for me:
1. Too expensive, ie too high end. No way they're going to sell 10million phones at this price. I hope they have a lower end phone in the works. I'd be interested in the rumor chocolate like phone, basic phone with iPod for lots less $$. I'd even consider bailing from my Sprint contract to Cingular, for a lower priced phone.
2. EDGE is the supported network protocol. That too slow to reasonably do many of the things he's demoing, web browsing with lots of images becomes painfully slow. If you had higher speed, you could consider doing iChat, but not with EDGE.
why this works!
I mean.. one of the reasons the regular iPods work so well is because of the tie in with iTunes. The fact that not just music is stored, you have audiobooks, podcasts, contacts/calender (entourage, iCal, address book etc) and photos.. these all sync to your (albeit, latest) iPod! As Apple control the device and the software to run/sync it should provide the simplicity people are looking for.
Adding a phone component was a matter of a good interface, electronics and getting some phone carrier to subsidise the price to get it out in the market.
It's a fluid extension of iTunes/your computer - the next stage in the iPods evolution.
I mean.. one of the reasons the regular iPods work so well is because of the tie in with iTunes. The fact that not just music is stored, you have audiobooks, podcasts, contacts/calender (entourage, iCal, address book etc) and photos.. these all sync to your (albeit, latest) iPod! As Apple control the device and the software to run/sync it should provide the simplicity people are looking for.
Adding a phone component was a matter of a good interface, electronics and getting some phone carrier to subsidise the price to get it out in the market.
It's a fluid extension of iTunes/your computer - the next stage in the iPods evolution.
Looks terrific, but with one major flaw - it's tied to Cingular. That's a deal-breaker for me. Hopefully it's exclusivity is limited like the Razr was.
I now know what I was born to do.....
I was born to own this phone...
I can't even take it, the keynote has me so fired up.....I could care less how much it costs right now....I'm saving starting today
I was born to own this phone...
I can't even take it, the keynote has me so fired up.....I could care less how much it costs right now....I'm saving starting today
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