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Apple Announces The iPhone

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Hello, I saw the iPhone announcement, so I came to look.
I would buy the device ONLY if it did not come in the phone version, since I don't really need the phone functionality. I would replace my Compaq iPaq with it, and I am always connected to my office intranet via wlan. 15 hours of battery life is really good. Most Pocket PCs can barely meet that. My iPaq was advertised to do 15 hours, but with the backlight switched off. This new device runs OS X (A version of BSD), so it shouldn't be a problem porting any existing Mac applications to it and it should be more stable. I have had plenty of problems with my iPaq the way it is since it runs Windows and is, unfortunately, VERY buggy. It looks like a nice device. I hope they make a none phone version, then I can get rid of my iPaq for good. My iPaq is only used when I do not want my Powerbook on my desk. It has a fairly buggy email client which is a simpler, but more buggy version of MS Outlook. It sometimes gets lost with its emails, then when I delete emails, the next time it fetches my emails, it sometimes brings all the deleted messages back into my inbox. Its really annoying, not to mention sore fingers from deleting message after message. The Microsoft IE does not work well either, but I'll not get into that yet. Now, the control panels are fairly limited. Then the wlan card sometimes gets switched off, but the device tells me that the wlan card is still on. Sometimes it crashes too. :( I tried Linux on it (yeah, but I needed LOTS of help to get it loaded), but the Linux port is not very functional at all although it is less buggy, and not everything works well.

Anyway, this new iPhone, if they made a version without the phone in it, would be a Godsend. :)
 
ART5000 said:
Is this your opinion or fact? not really talking about voip software but about the phone having voip integrated within root, like plug in STUN numbers etc etc etc.
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when i say "i doubt", sure i was saying from my opinion :p
 
iPhone HAS GPS.....

From the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette:

"The phone supports Wi-Fi and Bluetooth wireless technology and can detect location from Global Positioning System satellites. It also can send and display e-mail and text messages. Apple is partnering with Yahoo Inc. on Web-based e-mail and Google Inc. on maps."

Source:
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/APPLE_MACWORLD?SITE=PAPIT&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=home.htm


One thing I want to know....DOES IT HAVE VIBRATE??? I watched the keynote, but no mention of it. Just Silent and Ring. I hope there is a vibrate. I am sure there is, but just want to know, haha
 
Nice... but...

I'd like a device like that without the phone built in. The next iPod. Suppose it does lay the foundations for new iPods.

Absolutely fantastic. I won't buy one (can't afford and don't like contract services) though.

Thumbs up Apple :)
 
Vibrate is a good point. It would be odd not to have that feature.

The funny thing is during the keynote, the audience was bashing Cingular non-stop.

It didn't help that the CEO gave one of the worst speeches in the history of the event.

You know when you make Roz Ho from Microsoft look like a great public speaker, you've totally bombed.
 
Two or three things I think it really needs to be usefull or so I would buy it. Does anyone know if some of these are already there or maybe could be added?

1) Notes. To be a usefull 'smart phone' I really need to be able to take short notes.
2) Remote Desktop. I use pcAnywhere mobile and Remote Desktop on my ppc6700. I really still need these.
3) SSH. Would be really handy, Again, I have this on my WM5 PPC6700 and use it when in a bind and need to fix something on a server remotely.

Thanks,
James
 
Glad I stuck with Cingular for the GSM platform. My phone is up for upgrade come June! Bring on the deal.
 
Sean7512 said:
From the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette:

"The phone supports Wi-Fi and Bluetooth wireless technology and can detect location from Global Positioning System satellites. It also can send and display e-mail and text messages. Apple is partnering with Yahoo Inc. on Web-based e-mail and Google Inc. on maps."

Source:
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/APPLE_MACWORLD?SITE=PAPIT&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=home.htm


One thing I want to know....DOES IT HAVE VIBRATE??? I watched the keynote, but no mention of it. Just Silent and Ring. I hope there is a vibrate. I am sure there is, but just want to know, haha
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I haven't seen the vibrator or GPS from any relaible source. Even in the keynote there's nothing indicating it knows where you are, Moscone Center was bookmarked and appeared as much as the "current" location as did the Eiffel Tower. I highly doubt there's GPS in the iPhone, that would be mentioned somewhere. Location over cell networks works in some areas, but iit's not really precise or reliable. I would love Tomtom to make an accessory tho, GPS antenna with dock connector plus the software and map. The basic all in one Tomtom is around $400, so an iPhone set for $200 would be kinda cool. They already do that for PDAs, so why not? Choose between Tomtom maps or google maps where available. Sweet.
 
saving up Leopard details to kill Vista hype?

anyone else think that maybe they're holding off on releasing any leopard deals to kill the MS Vista buzz in a bit? could be some brilliant marketing
 
Get over it, whiners

This is the best product Apple has ever made. Are people beating down the doors to buy intel computers? Computers have had no pizazz since 2000. Nope, everyone that deals in image will have to have one of these iphones. And once the early adopters grab em, then later will the rest of you.

I'm sure a lengthy discussion of "Leopard" would have gotten all the networks interested...:rolleyes:
 
jamesarm97 said:
Two or three things I think it really needs to be usefull or so I would buy it. Does anyone know if some of these are already there or maybe could be added?

1) Notes. To be a usefull 'smart phone' I really need to be able to take short notes.
2) Remote Desktop. I use pcAnywhere mobile and Remote Desktop on my ppc6700. I really still need these.
3) SSH. Would be really handy, Again, I have this on my WM5 PPC6700 and use it when in a bind and need to fix something on a server remotely.

Thanks,
James
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1) Bottom left icon in the menu. ;)
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2) and 3) are not mainstream consumer stuff. But the phone still has 6 months to go to mature in terms of widgets. And since anyone can make widgets and the iPhone OS seems to be a small version of OSX, I guess the open source community will have some cool stuff coming. I agree most widgets out there are pretty useless, but some of them are quite awesome. I'll say a terminal console for iPhone will pop up shortly after it's released.
 
i love the new iphone, but it would be better if it also included a universal remote, garage opener and higher res camera. cant wait for the 2nd version, then i shall buy.
 
tribulation said:
anyone else think that maybe they're holding off on releasing any leopard deals to kill the MS Vista buzz in a bit? could be some brilliant marketing
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Totally. I'm testing vista here and there at work and it's horrible on every aspect. And that's the release version... Home users will hate it because it's even more complicated to do simple stuff than ever before and people used to XP will have a hard time getting used to it.

There are some "OSX tech talk" events for developers in major US cities in January, the last one being the 24th in New York (I'm attending). There will be in depth demos of Leopard, so I guess Leopard will come out when Vista has the worst news coverage (I mean, a lot of coverage, but the bad kind). People scared by horror stories on TV might opt for a Mac as they have to learn to use a computer again anyway. Perfect marketing. Who ever heard of a bad Virus for Mac?
 
Would this turn into a nice handheld gaming console? Is that what Steve was referring to when he stated game console numbers?
 
tribulation said:
anyone else think that maybe they're holding off on releasing any leopard deals to kill the MS Vista buzz in a bit? could be some brilliant marketing
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Absolutely. Microsoft introduces the laughable zune, only to be completely crushed by the Apple iPhone and (hopefully) forthcoming widescreen iPod.

Next, Microsoft introduces Vista only to have the buzz killed yet again by Apple when they release Leopard.

While I was a little disappointed that there was no info forthcoming about Leopard, I understand that timing is EVERYTHING.

:cool:
 
age234 said:
As for replaceable SIM cards and batteries, it looks like there's a black section at the bottom of the back side (judging from various photos I've seen), maybe that's a cover for a battery/SIM card compartment?
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More likely that's the (plastic? zirconium?) radio-frequency "window" for the various antennas, especially if the rest of the rear housing is metal.
 
ksz said:
How they kept the name "iPhone" is impressive in its own right!
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I don't think Apple is out of the woods just yet with the iPhone name. This AP story says a little on that:

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070109/apple_macworld_cisco.html?.v=1

It seems Cisco waited until the eleventh hour to come back with an offer. I suspect the license agreement may be steep, forcing Apple to pay a lot for the iPhone name use. Jobs and company may go with another name for their ingenious new cell phone. They've got a few months buffer until June. Perhaps that is partly why they are saying June?

It's all a little odd to me. What company would want to share their trademark name with another company, especially a company they directly compete with, i.e.,wireless phones and TV set top boxes? Might Apple have some legal ground to use the iPhone name and both companies are trying to avoid the legal battle costs? Or perhaps Cisco is simply trying to trip up Apple's momentum?

I don't know... Just a thought spewed senselessly from some backside part of me.
 
For all of you people posting who have not watched the Keynote Steve said that the reason this was announced now is that FCC approval takes months. Since that is public knowledge he did not want the FCC making the announcement and stealing his shining moment.
This is a stunning phone. I want one! Still some questions. Replaceable battery? Every phone I have ever owned has needed on within 2 years. I don't want to have to send my phone in to replace a battery. (I only have a cell phone, no land line.) Second is durability. I have dropped my Razr on hard concrete floors and it survived totally intact. Somehow I don't think the iPhone would do the same. A insurance add on will be a must.
 
chubad said:
For all of you people posting who have not watched the Keynote Steve said that the reason this was announced now is that FCC approval takes months. Since that is public knowledge he did not want the FCC making the announcement and stealing his shining moment.
This is a stunning phone. I want one! Still some questions. Replaceable battery? Every phone I have ever owned has needed on within 2 years. I don't want to have to send my phone in to replace a battery. (I only have a cell phone, no land line.) Second is durability. I have dropped my Razr on hard concrete floors and it survived totally intact. Somehow I don't think the iPhone would do the same. A insurance add on will be a must.
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I dont believe your Razr story for 1 second! i watched a friend same height as I am 5'10" drop his razr (NON pouch, case, JUST NAKED RaZR) at hip level and it had a nice chip and the battery was slightly dislodged (almost twisted at its connector hinge). Guess it depends on where it hits the razr first.

With Litium-ION Polymer battery technology batteries should last longer than 3 yrs. I have owned an Ericsson T39m, 2 actually and used the same battery from my first one over 3 yrs before I let it go! However for piece of mind I agree replaceable battery will be an issue. Do I see another non-satisfactory battery lawsuit like Apple had against them in the US with the first 3 gens of iPod?!
 
bketchum said:
I don't think Apple is out of the woods just yet with the iPhone name. This AP story says a little on that:

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070109/apple_macworld_cisco.html?.v=1

It seems Cisco waited until the eleventh hour to come back with an offer. I suspect the license agreement may be steep, forcing Apple to pay a lot for the iPhone name use. Jobs and company may go with another name for their ingenious new cell phone. They've got a few months buffer until June. Perhaps that is partly why they are saying June?

It's all a little odd to me. What company would want to share their trademark name with another company, especially a company they directly compete with, i.e.,wireless phones and TV set top boxes? Might Apple have some legal ground to use the iPhone name and both companies are trying to avoid the legal battle costs? Or perhaps Cisco is simply trying to trip up Apple's momentum?

I don't know... Just a thought spewed senselessly from some backside part of me.
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I'm sure there is some way they can make some type of deal that makes both companies happy... there always is...

interesting article, I sure hope apple doesn't have to end up paying millions of dollars to cisco :p
 
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