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Apple announced details about this years Worldwide Developers Conference (WWDC).

WWDC 2007 will take place from June 11-15th, 2007 in San Francisco, CA:

This June, the center of the Mac universe will be in downtown San Francisco, as developers and IT professionals from around the globe come together for the Apple Worldwide Developers Conference. Don't miss this opportunity to connect with Apple engineers, get a firsthand look at the latest technology, and spend a week getting the kind of inspiration you won't find anywhere else.

Earlier rumors had pegged the date of the conference for this time. Last year's WWDC conference was delayed to August to coincide with Intel Mac Pros and the Leopard Preview.

WWDC is Apple's developer conference and focuses on developer topics. In recent years, with the demise of the summer Macworld expo, WWDC's keynote address has become a venue for significant Apple announcements.
 

peharri

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Apple announced details about this years Worldwide Developers Conference (WWDC).

WWDC 2007 will take place from June 11-15th, 2007 in San Francisco, CA:

That means no Leopard until June. There's no other event that would be suitable for demoing Leopard until then (they can't very well show it at a one-off event, because Journalists and industry people, the typical audience for such events, really aren't the right audience for a new Mac OS.)

That's sad, but let's hope they use the time well.
 
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aricher

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June 11th huh - I guess technically that's still considered a "spring" release. Hopefully we'll get Leopard before then.
 
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lizard79

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So we got a date, when the new macbook pros incl santa rosa will arrive...
cheers..
 
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AppliedVisual

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So we got a date, when the new macbook pros incl santa rosa will arrive...
cheers..

That's kinda what I'm thinking.... It would be about the right time. As for Leopoard, I think we'll see it at NAB and it will ship end of April along with updated Mac Pro systems and updated Pro applications. Apple can't afford to not have updated, 8-core Mac Pro systems and updated Final Cut Studio / Shake at NAB.
 
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wrldwzrd89

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Regardless of when Apple releases Leopard, I think we definitely won't see a preview of Mac OS X v10.6... it would be far too early in development to show off, even at a developer conference.

I hope Apple makes some sort of significant Mac-related announcement between now and when the WWDC keynote ends ;)
 
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Ahheck01

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Are we really all that certain that Leopard will be released before then? If so, why?

And also, I don't see why they would use the developers conference to release the iPhone, since there will be no 3rd party development anyway.

-Evan
 
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spicyapple

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Maybe they'll finally announce iLife '07. :)

God knows it could use a major upgrade, especially iDVD, which I've been fighting with for the last 5 days.

I think Leopard will be released at WWDC just in time to show off the "secret features" that hooks up with iPhone in some kinky, sexy ways we haven't seen yet. That's my expectation, at least.

Given the June announcement, I think Apple will release new Mac Pros sometime in late February or early March, otherwise the line-up would have gone without a refresh for nearly 10 months!
 
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twoodcc

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well, it starts the day after my birthday :p , i knew they would wait so i could celebrate it first, then they can have my attention :D

looking forward to it though! very glad it's in June and not August this time:cool: :apple:
 
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3282872

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Hmmmm

Not to be Debbie Downer, but June??? Leopard has been taking quite a long time, Steve Jobs' "Top Secrets" had better blow the pants off everyone. I feel like this is Windoze 2007/Longhorn/Vista all over again... :p
 
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iJawn108

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I'm hearing that iWife '07 with iCook and iClean bundled with it :p JKJKJK

I'm itching for new apple **** to buy, hurry up and release it :(
 
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RichP

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You guys are too much... WWDC is for technologies developers are GOING to develop for, not what they have already worked on. Leopard and its new tech as already been shown, its old hat for this conference.

Expect to see "OSX Mobile/Lite/Etc" the talk of WWDC. Its iPhone release time; the new platform will be available then. (Otherwise, they would have to release iPhone developer kits) I honestly dont believe there will be NO 3rd party apps for the phone, Apple wants to make sure there are just no half-baked 3rd party apps.
 
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Stella

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You guys are too much... WWDC is for technologies developers are GOING to develop for, not what they have already worked on. Leopard and its new tech as already been shown, its old hat for this conference.

Expect to see "OSX Mobile/Lite/Etc" the talk of WWDC. Its iPhone release time; the new platform will be available then. (Otherwise, they would have to release iPhone developer kits) I honestly dont believe there will be NO 3rd party apps for the phone, Apple wants to make sure there are just no half-baked 3rd party apps.

Q: Whats the difference between half baked iPhone apps and crap OSX apps?

A: One may crash your phone and miss a phone call ( fairly unlikely ) and the other, may cause ( unsaved ) data loss on your Mac.

A: Little difference.

IMO, Apple's line is a poor excuse to limit 3rd party apps.
 
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wrldwzrd89

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Q: Whats the difference between half baked iPhone apps and crap OSX apps?

A: One may crash your phone and miss a phone call ( fairly unlikely ) and the other, may cause ( unsaved ) data loss on your Mac.

A: Little difference.

IMO, Apple's line is a poor excuse to limit 3rd party apps.
Personally, I think the reason Apple's limiting 3rd party apps isn't because they want to, but because they have to due to not having a SDK ready for the iPhone. This will hopefully be rectified at WWDC.

I agree with your reasoning, and I think Apple fully wants to encourage 3rd party iPhone development. That's kind of hard to do without a SDK.
 
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Stella

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Personally, I think the reason Apple's limiting 3rd party apps isn't because they want to, but because they have to due to not having a SDK ready for the iPhone. This will hopefully be rectified at WWDC.

I agree with your reasoning, and I think Apple fully wants to encourage 3rd party iPhone development. That's kind of hard to do without a SDK.

Good point. Once they have the SDK ready, I'm pretty sure it'll be plugged into GCC ( or whatever XCode uses these days ) and plugins IDE helpers for XCode.

However, that does leave out Windows iPhone development - unless they make a distribution with iPhone SDK + GCC.
 
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ogun7

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I think it'll be mostly a demonstration of new (and as yet unheard of) features in Leopard and some crazy developer's tool related to new features in Santa Rosa. I don't think we'll be amazed at hardware announcements. LED MacBook Pros?
 
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Xeem

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Jobs' iPhone keynote was great and all, but I really hope WWDC 07 has enough actual Mac coverage to make up for the huge void of Macintosh news at Macworld.
 
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Rocketman

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WWDC announcements

I am going to make predictions of WWDC (or before) announcements. 2/3 of these.

1. Mac-Mini C2D (64 bit accross the Mac product line claim validated)

2. iLife/iWork/FCP/Logic updates

3. Leopard 10.5.0 in time to get a 10.5.1 in WWDC attendee hands.

4. An app to run Windows apps without Windows installed.

5. ATN (iPhone) developers kit and process to become a "trusted app".

6. MacPro incremental upgrade and BTO feature additions.

7. MacPro Octo with Multimedia's SS chipset, and a CS3 bundle option.

8. MacBookPro 15 with Santa Rosa, 8gb memory capacity, LCD backlit screen and 802.11n/Edge BTO option, possible wimax BTO option.

9. Consumer SAN.

And one more thing . . . .

10. iMac Quadcore.

Wish me luck!

Rocketman
 
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Stella

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Make it so
!!

I am going to make predictions of WWDC (or before) announcements. 2/3 of these.

1. Mac-Mini C2D (64 bit accross the Mac product line claim validated)

2. iLife/iWork/FCP/Logic updates

3. Leopard 10.5.0 in time to get a 10.5.1 in WWDC attendee hands.

4. An app to run Windows apps without Windows installed.

5. ATN (iPhone) developers kit and process to become a "trusted app".

6. MacPro incremental upgrade and BTO feature additions.

7. MacPro Octo with Multimedia's SS chipset, and a CS3 bundle option.

8. MacBookPro 15 with Santa Rosa, 8gb memory capacity, LCD backlit screen and 802.11n/Edge BTO option, possible wimax BTO option.

9. Consumer SAN.

And one more thing . . . .

10. iMac Quadcore.

Wish me luck!

Rocketman
 
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ClimbingTheLog

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cool, maybe a release of the iphone

If it's a closed platform come June they should expect a fruiting.

No. It's a consumer item. Maybe an iPhone development software announcement, but not the iPhone itself.

Jobs did a MacWorld Keynote with no Mac announcements. One would think the audience would have cared.

Personally, I think the reason Apple's limiting 3rd party apps isn't because they want to, but because they have to due to not having a SDK ready for the iPhone. This will hopefully be rectified at WWDC.

I agree with your reasoning, and I think Apple fully wants to encourage 3rd party iPhone development. That's kind of hard to do without a SDK.

But it's not going to be released until June. If they expected to have an SDK they could have said so, or if they thought it would have been ready later they could have said, "we don't have an SDK yet but we're working on it." Instead they said, "it's a closed platform." I think that really means they want a cut of each app sale through iTunes and we'll hear more about that in June. It'll be touted as how easy it is to market and distribute your apps to customers. Apple only takes 20%.

I think I'll skip WWDC this year unless a good Mac track is announced. The past few years it's been "pony up $4K to see what we might be talking about". That's nice if you're in town and your employer is paying I guess.
 
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ChrisA

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Q: Whats the difference between half baked iPhone apps and crap OSX apps?

We don't know how "stripped down" the "mobile OS X" is. What if it lacks the concept of file and process ownership and user accounts? What if the iPhone hardware lacks an MMU (Memory managment unit) If so then a buggy application could not only crash the phone but take out some system files turrning the iPhone into a brick that needs to be sent back for service.

You say "unlikely" for some random bug to take out the firmware in flash. Yes. But what about Trojans? If anyone can make software, many people will and idiots will install junk on their phones. If the OS is as stripped down as above than security is imposable, not just hard but imposable. You can't let random software run on such a system

My guess is that they will announce a developer program. That is a system where people can develop software and then hand it over the Apple for testing and distribution or perhaps Apple will allow certain shops that have very good and well documented processes in place to do their own testing.

a Phone is different then a computer. People ecpect phones to work 100% for years. Phines are also "real time" devices. Here is a pretty good introduction to why a phjone is not a computer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real-time_operating_system
 
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Bobthemonkey

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Predictions:

If Stoakley Seaburg is looking for a late 07 release then:
8 Core Mac Pro (no S/S) announced at NAB along with FCP Shipping by WWDC. S/S MPros at Macworld 08

If S/S is going to be earlier then 8Core with SS announced at WWDC.

Lepoard to co-incide (whether WWDC or not) with C2D minis - first consumer company shipping all 64-bit machines.

Santa Rosa MBP at WWDC, with Santa Rosa MB before holidays.

Santa Rosa based iMacs (new form factors -maybe) by holidays.
 
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