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We could look at this from gains standpoint; what is there to gain from using iPhone OS on desktop computer. Honestly, I can't find any. iPhone is ideal for media consumption but is poor for creation of any kind of material. Even more so iPhone OS is ideal for small, portable touch screen devices but poor on big desktop screens which means lower productivity. The change would most likely drive away large number of professional Mac users even in extent that new iPhony Mac would be seen purely as consumer device.

Finally, reason walks into the room.

On an unrelated note (sort of), I wonder how far Apple is from becoming the Microsoft of the 90's. Not just in $$$ but in perception. Perception from everyone. From the average consumer to hardcore user. Hmmmm... I've always loved Mac, loved how they just made sense when Windows seemed to want to fight a natural way of working with computers. Although many of us will not admit it (but I will), I enjoyed being in that exclusive club. That club of people, artists, creative types and other thinkers that enjoyed being into something not everyone... "got" (yes, I know there were plenty of Windows thinkers, etc). Silly, I know but it was still cool listening to the trials and tribulations of the average Windows user lament about what they had to deal with on a daily basis. Petty me, right? How far are we from an over saturation of Apple product/mindset/methodology? Are we close at all? I guess what I'm wondering is will I ever sit next to a Paris Hilton type on the subway (work with me here, I'm trying to make a point) while she diddles on her iphone/ipad and think to myself: "Was I ever really part something cool? Did everyone just finally catch on? -or- Has something I once so adored been shelved for something to... appeal to the masses?" Apologies, just thinking by way of keyboard.
 
Still waiting on the MBA update, and am sorry to see it(along with all the rest of the Mac line) being pushed to the side to make way for iPhones, iPads, iPods, and the app store! iPhone OS is ok, but does not deserve an entire WWDC!!!

Yeah, I really liked the MBA in concept. Didn't go for it cause of some small considerations (I'd be wanting it to replace my laptop and at the time it had a weaker processor plus I really do want three input ports, two of which should be USB as I like to be able to plug in my keyboard, iphone/ipod, and backup drive (which can use firewire) at the same time).

I was all excited about hopefully in the future it getting better/more powerful, or them using some of the technology to make laptops that thin in future laptops (I choose a 13" laptop for size, not price. Though luckily the 13" also fits my budget better ;). But given a better budget much more likely to spend more money for a powerful computer in a small package than a powerful computer with a bigger screen).
 
-iPhone HD

- Brand new iMac with the AMD six core processors and the i5-520m processors replacing the Core 2 Duo

- Updated Macbooks with the same Nvidia graphics chip as the Macbook Pro 13 inch.

- Mac Pro with the 12 Core AMD processors Magny Cours chips.

The AMDs were worse then the Intel i7 980X (i think thats the model)
 
The AMDs were worse then the Intel i7 980X (i think thats the model)

You're comparing Intel's top sans Xeon model to AMD's desktop model?

In other words, you're comparing $999 vs. $299?

The AMD II X6 1090T is between an i7 870 and an i7 975 in performance.

I'll take the AMD if I had the choice from Apple to put in a BTO.
 
I don't see the problem. Just buy a Blu-Ray Drive. They exist with Macs support. Google showed me this one right away - http://fastmac.com/slim_bluray.php

Toast 10 burns Blu-Ray.

That is old. Yes you can hook up an external blu-ray writer and burn using toast. But what he means is native support in programs and an iBlu-ray so i can create the movies

That's pretty cool. I already knew about 3rd party Blu-Ray drives & Toast. What I meant was I don't want to have to buy a 3rd party drive. I want Apple to provide one standard, or at least BTO.

Oh quit your whining. I'm a very small developer, but I'd love to go and gladly pay the price of admission and expenses for the learning experience. It's not a matter of "deserving", it's a matter of whether the content and experience offered is worth it to a developer, irregardless of size.

Sorry, I didn't mean to whine. It's just hard to tell intent on these forums. My main point was that these conventions (not just WWDC, but all conventions in general) are so expensive. I agree, they may definitely be worth several thousand dollars to go, but some people just can't afford to go, even if they consider it to be worth twice as much. Sorry if I'm whining, I just wanted to put in my opinion.
 
Sorry, I didn't mean to whine. It's just hard to tell intent on these forums. My main point was that these conventions (not just WWDC, but all conventions in general) are so expensive. I agree, they may definitely be worth several thousand dollars to go, but some people just can't afford to go, even if they consider it to be worth twice as much. Sorry if I'm whining, I just wanted to put in my opinion.

I agree 100% that they're very pricey. I wish there were a way to get a 2-day pass or something like that.
 
If the MBP's went over their average lifecycle, the Mac Pros are meanwhile possible targets for an archeological excavation. ;)
Eh, I wouldn't say so. the life cycle for MP is 11-13 months. The last update was March 3, 2009 (almost 14 months ago). If they get updated at WWDC, it would be 15 months. They'll probably get updated silently before WWDC (happened a lot in the past)
The last WWDC focused a lot on SL, in particular Grand Central. They don't have anything of interest to show yet (yay, 10.6.4!). They do on the other hand have the iPad and a new iPhone, both of which will be running iPhone OS 4 which has quite a lot of new stuff like multitasking. It's no surprise that they put all their eggs in the iPhone OS basket this year. You need a lot of imagination and conjecture to interpret that as the end of OS X.
You're taking this too far. Why would they end OSX if they just went through making SL -- the foundation of for future versions of OSX, with the new technologies and what not. Lets look at history.
WWDC 2005 focused on the Mac, particularly the intel switch, and Steve announced that the next version of OSX would be called leopard, and it would ship at the end of 2006 or early 2007.
MacWorld 2006 introduced the new intel iMac and MacBook Pros, and the new iLife suite.
WWDC 2006 unveiled 10 of Leopard's significant features, new Mac Pros, and Xserves
MacWorld 2007 had the AppleTV introduction, and the iPhone introduction. The event basically focused on the iPhone the entire time except for the few minutes with the ATV
WWDC 2007 (which keep in mind was a few weeks before the iPhone launch) almost completely focused on OSX Leopard, and the features they didn't mention at WWDC 2006. Steve also noted developers would be able to make webapps with the iPhone.
MacWorld 2008, MacBook Air, New ATV, Mac Pro updated a few weeks before.
WWDC 2008, iPhone 3G, Steve announced that the next version of OSX would be SL, and that it would focus on making the OS more efficient.
MacWorld 2009, new iLife apps, iwork apps, 17" MBP. No mention of SL whatsoever.
WWDC 2009, unveiling of SL, and a release date. New MBP's.

The technology and enhancement they made in SL are too great to drop OSX. They won't mention OSX at this WWDC, because OSX was just updated. Steve will probably at most give us the name and when to expect it, and in WWDC 11, we'll see 10.7. Remember, the iPad can't take over just yet. Just because they're focusing on the mobile arena at this point in time doesn't mean OSX is done for them. Why would they take OSX up to Open GL 3.0, why would they make Grand Central and all of these enhancements? Why would they update any of the Macs this year to the iX if they are going to abandon OSX and the technology it will utilize.
New Mac Pros, MacBooks, 27inch cinima display, problem free iMacs, and iPhones built correctly is what I'm hoping for. Oh... Xserve refresh too.
iMacs are problem free now. They fixed the bugs.
You forgot to add:

- iPod Touch with camera
- Apple TV (with apps for TV)
- Mini Tower/Mac Mini update

That's a list worthy of WWDC. :D

You won't see an iPod Touch update here. I'm 99% sure of that. Wait until September.
 
What should happen / "will" happen

1) new mac pro
2) new iPhone (4g)

What I want to happen

1) new iMac with blueray, updated graphics

What might happen up to wwdc or in wwdc

1) new ACD
2) new mac mini / MacBook

What might happen after wwdc

1) new iPod touchs with camera
 
You won't see an iPod Touch update here. I'm 99% sure of that. Wait until September.

Don't worry, I am not expecting it at all.

I really only expect to see lots of iPhone OS 4 and maybe some new MacOS 10.7 stuff if we're lucky.

I'd really love to see a new Mac Pro.

If I were dreaming, it'd be a new Mac Pro with a cheaper entry price . . . like back down to $2000-$2200.
 
The mac pro should be cheaper than the iMac because, the entry level, mac pro will have an i7 - the iMac has this, basically the standard mac pro is less powerful than the iMac but more expencive - that's not including the iMacs 27 inch screen
 
The mac pro should be cheaper than the iMac because, the entry level, mac pro will have an i7 - the iMac has this, basically the standard mac pro is less powerful than the iMac but more expencive - that's not including the iMacs 27 inch screen

The top-end iMac has a Lynnfield Core i5 - four cores, four threads. The entry-level MP has a Bloomfield Xeon 3500, basically the same as a Core i7-920 (the one I have in my hackintosh) - four cores, eight threads.

But obviously you're paying for more than just the processor.
 
So can anyone go to this? I'm 15 and i want to save enough $ to buy a ticket so i can go next year? Or do you have to be a developer
 
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