Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 3_1_2 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/532.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0.4 Mobile/7D11 Safari/531.21.10)



Have you ever attended an in-depth developer conference? $1600 is very reasonable. I've been to some Java and .NET ones that are twice that.

this is very true. however, i think we all got spoiled by $1295 early registration they used to have. it took a lot more persuasion to convince my boss this year...
 
CartmanWuvWii.jpg

*Clicks like button*
 
With the help of 3000 W PSU? :D
Not really.

We could look at this from gains standpoint; what is there to gain from using iPhone OS on desktop computer. Honestly, I can't find any. iPhone is ideal for media consumption but is poor for creation of any kind of material. Even more so iPhone OS is ideal for small, portable touch screen devices but poor on big desktop screens which means lower productivity. The change would most likely drive away large number of professional Mac users even in extent that new iPhony Mac would be seen purely as consumer device.
The only major one I can think of is lower hardware specs needed for iPhone OS which can mean cheaper devices.
 
I really hope to see Steve Jobs go ballistic because his new toy got leaked. :D

The best news i've heard all day!

Can't wait for the new iPhone

So will the keynote be on that Monday the 7th or Tuesday the 8th??? :confused:

I am curious to see what Steve will do or mention about the whole leak too haha! :p I just hope there is at least some little surprise for us since everything else has been pretty much blown! I also won't be surprised to have some little disappointment too like WIFI only iChat, or additional AT&T fee for iChat, something lame. :( Here's to hoping! :)
 
Anybody else still p.o.'ed at Steve Jobs for brutally killing off the Apple II?
Anybody else getting a sinking deja vu sort of feeling?
 
They clearly want to focus on iPhone OS. Why pull a handful of OS X-only devs in just for 1 of 5 awards. Seems like a waste of time and it unfocuses the entire week.

There are still Mac OS X only related seminars. The important Mac developers will be there regardless of Apple's focus. However, I do agree with what you're saying about focus although I'm not personally seeing it as positive development.
 
You forgot to add:

- iPod Touch with camera
- Apple TV (with apps for TV)
- Mini Tower/Mac Mini update

That's a list worthy of WWDC. :D

It is but I can't see them coming out with the iPod touch with camera at WWDC. September, sure, and I have this feeling that maybe the iPad will also be refreshed then to have one. Of course I'm aware it's awfully too soon for it to be refreshed but the fact that OS 4 for the iPad won't be out until this fall made me think that. I do think it's very plausible that iPod touch with camera will show up in September at least.
 
It is but I can't see them coming out with the iPod touch with camera at WWDC. September, sure, and I have this feeling that maybe the iPad will also be refreshed then to have one. Of course I'm aware it's awfully too soon for it to be refreshed but the fact that OS 4 for the iPad won't be out until this fall made me think that. I do think it's very plausible that iPod touch with camera will show up in September at least.

Don't worry about it, that comment was a joke.
 
jaw04005's revenue chart is illuminating and reassuring, but would anyone happen to have a link to data on the profit breakdown?

attachment.php
 
OS 8 went to 8.6 (I LOVED that update)

Of course you loved that update, 8.0 sucked. Honestly, imho was the worst mac os. It really was slow and just didn't run well (I mean if you had a fast enough machine than I guess it would be ok. But 8.5 showed that there was a lot of refinement they could have done to make it not need so much processor to run. My outdated machine at the time ran 8.5, 8.6, and 9.0 fine but really was laggy on 8.0). 8.5 was what they should have waited to release rather than 8.0 which seemed like they really should have refined it before releasing it (8.5 pretty much fixed the problem). 8.6 was pretty good too. But I really liked 9 in general.

As for touch screen Macs, uh, don't see it. I see some one's point here about touch screens being something you lay down cause it would be awkward to use a vertical screen that way. But it would also be awkward to have to keep looking down at your screen (your neck would start to hurt).

Honestly, I agree with one poster that the iphone OS is great for small portable devices meant to consume media and stuff, but not so good for actually working on stuff (for one I'd want an actual physical keyboard for that. Touchscreens do not fully replace a full size keyboard and being able to know what you are hitting by feel and not having to look. And that's just addressing keyboard. As well as having a screen that pops up in front of you that lets you see what's going on without straining your neck).
 
Any change the Macbook Pros will be updated at WWDC? I want to upgrade but don't want to if there is another update soon.

Doubtful seeings as they have only just refreshed the MBPs with the i* cores but I better just check before buying one!

Thanks.
 
IIRC, Leopard was released in late October 2007 and the first public announcement of Snow Leopard was at WWDC 2008, less than eight months later.
Indeed but SL was a minor update over Leopard with only couple new API's, which were ready to demonstrate at WWDC 2008. Obviously 10.7 will be a much bigger upgrade and the many new API's for 10.7 are not going to be ready to demonstrate in WWDC 2010. Most probably next years WWDC will be about 10.7.
 
Indeed but SL was a minor update over Leopard with only couple new API's, which were ready to demonstrate at WWDC 2008. Obviously 10.7 will be a much bigger upgrade and the many new API's for 10.7 are not going to be ready to demonstrate in WWDC 2010. Most probably next years WWDC will be about 10.7.

However, all the way to 10.4 there were yearly release of new OS. It was said by Apple that iPhone development delayed the release of 10.5 but even during that time information and previews of 10.5 were shown at WWDC. Therefore one could expect at least a 10.7 preview shown at WWDC.

Then again looking at seminars etc. it seems WWDC is all about iPhone OS. Kind of follows the trend. If number of rumours can tell us anything then iPhone is the business. Just take a look at MacRumors front page. 12 out of 15 news / rumours are about iPhone or iPad. Only one is about Mac and two about Apple in general. MacRumors should change its name to iPhoneRumors :eek:
 
One of the WWDC sessions:

OpenGL for Mac OS X
OpenGL is the foundation for accelerated graphics in Mac OS X, taking advantage of the most recent innovations in graphics hardware. See how advances in OpenGL enable you to unlock the incredible rendering power of the GPU. Get all the details to take advantage of OpenGL extensions, and learn best practices and tips for modernizing and streamlining your graphics code.


See? OS X is being included.... kinda...
 
So are you saying that small time app developers, who make great shareware apps or something, don't deserve to go there, just because they can't afford it? Only big business developers should go along with students who might go into big business? I don't mean to be argumentative, but the way you put that is very off putting.

Oh quit your whining. I'm a very small developer, but I'd love to go and gladly pay the price of admission and expenses for the learning experience. It's not a matter of "deserving", it's a matter of whether the content and experience offered is worth it to a developer, irregardless of size.
 
Agree completly!

Gah! I hope not. iPhone OS is fine for phones and small little gadgets like that. But hell if I'd want that on my computer. I'd just go to Windows (seriously).

Unless they seriously tweaked it for a different interface on the computer.

And sorry, the ipad does not at all replace an a full computer/laptop.

Still waiting on the MBA update, and am sorry to see it(along with all the rest of the Mac line) being pushed to the side to make way for iPhones, iPads, iPods, and the app store! iPhone OS is ok, but does not deserve an entire WWDC!!!
 
Oh quit your whining. I'm a very small developer, but I'd love to go and gladly pay the price of admission and expenses for the learning experience. It's not a matter of "deserving", it's a matter of whether the content and experience offered is worth it to a developer, irregardless of size.

Thank you for the refreshing post. Too many people these days think they "deserve" something because they don't or can't have it and somebody else does or can.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.