Stop apologising and do some basic freaking testing and QA before rolling out (delayed) promised features. Every week there's a different bug, "gate" or whatnot.
This woman did *everything* right. She got blown off by the security team! Apple's cancerous hiring growth has lead to a mountain of people with no clue about Apple's actual culture or standards. We see the results in the headlines here daily for the last few years.
Who says she got blown off by them. What because Tim Cook didn’t show up at her house the next day with a fat check for her. It’s common practice not to acknowledge a possible security issue until it’s actually be confirmed, the source found and a way to deal with it discovered. Because if you admit there’s a security issue folks run to try to exploit it before you can patch it.
The fact that she was all ‘i’m going to give them a week and then i’m going to leak it’ says more about her than Apple.
Has anyone tried to do a search to find out if others have found this bug and shared it on the internet? How likely is it that someone has used this bug to spy on people?
Have any of these lawyers proof that any of their clients been spied on with this bug?
Just since something can be done, does not mean that it was done. it seems that there are a lot of opportunistic lawyers looking for a pay day.
Read the book The King of Torts.
Meanwhile, Google, Facebook, Amazon, etc are boldly and obviously stealing EVERYTHING from you and nobody bats an eye.
There are probably plenty of bugs that just haven't been found yet.
You obviously have not been paying attention. It's the security team that told her "file a Radar."
Basically heads I win tails you lose.
Who says she got blown off by them. What because Tim Cook didn’t show up at her house the next day with a fat check for her. It’s common practice not to acknowledge a possible security issue until it’s actually be confirmed, the source found and a way to deal with it discovered. Because if you admit there’s a security issue folks run to try to exploit it before you can patch it.
The fact that she was all ‘i’m going to give them a week and then i’m going to leak it’ says more about her than Apple.
The real problem with FaceTime is that the connection state can be controlled remotely. If the FT connection state was exclusively driven from the client then this bug couldn't have happened.
IMO this is the major problem with FaceTime that the bug exposed. The bug implies that Apple can listen in on your phone's audio and video at any time. FT has been around for so long that the functionality is probably part of the design; that's not something that would be "new in Group FaceTime."
I suspect they had been notified of the bug already and were hard at work fixing it in secret before it became widely known (damage control). And then this Texas hillbilly goes and tells Fox news...
Has anyone tried to do a search to find out if others have found this bug and shared it on the internet? How likely is it that someone has used this bug to spy on people?
Have any of these lawyers proof that any of their clients been spied on with this bug?
Just since something can be done, does not mean that it was done. it seems that there are a lot of opportunistic lawyers looking for a pay day.
Read the book The King of Torts.
If the bugs aren't found during the betas, you can't blame these companies for releasing a version they feel is ready.
Sounds like someone needs to take off his tin foil hat. These sorts of things can occur at any point, especially when you are recoding for new functionality. Means nothing in regards to the notion that it’s always been there
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I don’t know about them already knowing about it but yeah it’s pretty common for Apple to be secretive about security issues until after the fix is out there and has been for a while.
And yes this woman releasing it for her 15 minutes of fame did more damage in terms of telling folks the bug existed than anything else
Couldn't agree more. At least I know Apple has engineers working to correct this (admittedly pretty bad) bug -- Google and Facebook have teams working right now on ways to creep into everything we do.Google and Facebook invade your privacy every day in more insidious ways than you can imagine but THIS is what gets people up in arms? Give me a break.
Probably because they have hundreds of millions of users and likely BILLIONS of bug reports, the vast majority of which are stupid and/or duplicates and/or wrong. No company can possibly check every single report from any random user instantly. Can people start using their heads here?
Sorry, had an issue on the site. Let me clarify: Group Facetime was released on developer AND public beta WEEKS before its release. Since then, 2 more iOS updates were released. HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of people tested the feature and only RECENTLY did it surface. Is that better?
perhaps the problem isn't the speed of apologies, but rather the speed of litigation.Why does it take Apple longer to apologise than it takes lawsuits to appear?
I hate to agree with this, but you are right. What happened to the Apple I once knew? It isn't as though they are lacking on resources.Stop apologising and do some basic freaking testing and QA before rolling out (delayed) promised features. Every week there's a different bug, "gate" or whatnot.
How do you think they have recordings of Jamal Khashoggi's murder from his own iPhone? So, it's as early as October 2018.
Right. Endless bugs.Not good enough Apple, not by a long long long long long long way...
People are getting VERY sick and tired of all these endless ‘bugs’, they have been worst then ever over the last few years.
No excuse, the blame MUST lie squarely at the feet of Cook and the entire board. It is THERE jobs to run the company and they are utterly drastically failing in the software quality department.
Software Apple ALONE makes, software designed to EXCLUSIVELY run in spples devices it’s solely designed.
Increasing prices exponentially, making billions and billions and billions in profits every quarter, using loopholes and tax hauvens to avoid paying your taxes correctly, it’s disgusting, but then to consistently provide shocking bugs that you have no excuse for does push the limits.
No doubt it’ll cost a few sales, and hopefully share price as that seems to be ALL the board understands and cares about these days..
And it’s about God damn time people on here stopped making endless excuses for Apple and its bugs..
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Couldn’t agree more!OK awesome ... FYI, EVERY TECH COMPANY HAS BUGS AND SOME MORE SERIOUS THAN OTHERS. Apple makes their own software and supports billions of devices in the wild. They have an extensive beta program that AT LEAST HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of people are a part of. The bug slipped through the cracks so they fixed it. We aren't talking about Google+ or Facebook which leaked tens of millions of people's data, election tampering, how about Google releasing a $800-1000 phone that couldn't save photos, batteries overheated, memory issues, bad audio quality and horrid voice call quality. But you know, it's GOOGLE!! How could they ever have a social media platform that leaked used data or release buggy products???
Bugs are a part of the game sir. It's how the company responds when a bug surfaces is what matters the most. We all don't want the issues, but overall, Apple has addressed it swiftly and making sure it's fixed the right way. Appreciate that
I hate to agree with this, but you are right. What happened to the Apple I once knew? It isn't as though they are lacking on resources.
Jamal Khashoggi's iPhone was kept outside by his girlfriend, just saying.