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What got into Apple today? good on them and to all the Mac Pro users who kept the pressure up with VALID complaints, looks like you were finally heard!
 
"modular" as in the way the new MacBook pros are with dongles?! I hope not.

Really wish apple would just license macOS and let us use our own hardware instead of playing this game of "you'll take whatever we give you and like it"

Barring this, maybe we'll see something nice, like when I first tried a 2012 13" MBP before getting the 15" model a short time later because I was sick of Windows driver and update issues
 
The same Apple that proclaimed that trash can design to be the next big thing? It's a JOKE. They HAD a "PRO" model and they TRASHED it while making the new model look like a trash can! And all the Kool-Aid Brigade came out to OOH AND AH over it while the real Pros said it was a useless POS and they were right. They moved away and there is NO MORE PRO market for Macs save perhaps Logic (which doesn't need this overpriced trashcan to operate). I wouldn't trust Apple to "come up with something great" as par as I could urinate at this point.

They KILLED the Mac Mini with the last worthless 'update' (that was slower than the best model that I'm using right now) *BUT* it's "important to them". Yes, the world's most over-valued company can't afford to do regular hardware updates. Cry me another like of bullcrap!
 
all I would like to see from this:

Thunderbolt is NOT a PCIe replacement.
Thunderbolt is meant to complement PCIe.

Thunderbolt 3 is fast. very fast. But its still only runs on a PCIe 4x interface to the CPU. It will never equal a real x16 expansion slot. It was never meant to. Just give us a machine with a couple real expansion slots, and a bunch of thunderbolt ports, and everybody will be happy.
 
WTF is Schiller talking about??? Marketing BS laced hollow words. Apple already had established, simple and successful systems in place for regular updates before Jobs' death. Good Pro products, good displays that worked without interference, easy to upgrade products, no long term neglect like seen in today's Apple.

Post Jobs passing, bit by bit, Apple has been undoing, aka, f---ing up each established line. The fact that MacOS has had little growth in market share since Jobs passing is due to sh-t management. My vision is of a MacOS market share that truly rivals Windows. Wouldn't the world be a much better place if millions more were using MacOS? Why the F hasn't Apple pursued this goal alongside iOS? I can walk and chew gum, why the F can't Apple?

Now we are likely to see underpowered iMacs later in the year and a new Pro iMac??? Simplicity it completely shot. Whoever is advocating complexity at Apple needs to resign and apply to work at DELL.

Schiller needs to go, he's forgotten what Apple is all about-- Apple is simple, quiet, confident, secretive, magical. Instead everything about today's release is the complete opposite-- complex, loud, insecure, revealing, lame.
A more suitable analogy would be walking and texting at the same time. Yes, you could do both, but you wouldn't be the best in either one. Won't it be easier to text while standing still, or concentrate on walking while not texting?

And as far as the current Apple is concerned, iOS is the future, not macOS. However, Apple also realises that you need a Mac to develop apps for iOS, and that a majority of these developers use the Mac Pro. As such, the Mac Pro sticks around as a concession, despite its low sales volume, because that's the price that needs to be paid to create new apps and drive the sales of ios devices.

Apple made a misstep with the 2013 Mac Pro no doubt, but make no mistake about what their vision of Apple entails, and I daresay the Mac has no place in this new world order which Apple seeks to bring about.
 
Now just 3 more years til they apologise and release a macbook pro with ports and a dedicated charger

Sorry, but we can't help anyone who doesn't consider 4 of the highest bandwidth connectors on an enduser machine to be "ports".
 
With respect, you don't know what you're talking about on all fronts.

Fact check: developers use mini, iMac, Pro and PC. You don't need a Mac to develop for iOS, there are other options to develop iOS using Windows PCs.

Actually, Apple can be great at both iOS and Mac, Apple doesn't need to excel at one and stuff up the other, it's possible to walk and chew gum, it's possible to focus on iOS and Mac, especially with billions in reserve to do it.

*******s do what Apple is doing today. Rubbish nonsense is what Apple puts out in press releases today. People who love technology, art and creativity do what Steve Jobs did, focused on both Mac and iOS, and mind you, all with less resources.

A more suitable analogy would be walking and texting at the same time. Yes, you could do both, but you wouldn't be the best in either one. Won't it be easier to text while standing still, or concentrate on walking while not texting?

And as far as the current Apple is concerned, iOS is the future, not macOS. However, Apple also realises that you need a Mac to develop apps for iOS, and that a majority of these developers use the Mac Pro. As such, the Mac Pro sticks around as a concession, despite its low sales volume, because that's the price that needs to be paid to create new apps and drive the sales of ios devices.

Apple made a misstep with the 2013 Mac Pro no doubt, but make no mistake about what their vision of Apple entails, and I daresay the Mac has no place in this new world order which Apple seeks to bring about.
 
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They have to design the new chassis and then validate it. And if they're adding / switching to nVidia, they also need to validate macOS and Final Cut Pro and Logic X (plus they're designed around AMD GPUs so performance would drop without additional optimization for nVidia).

Fair points, and they've probably eliminated all those skills on staff.
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The TouchBar work was the only non-trivial engineering they've done since 2014. Today's Mac Pro change is literally nothing more than a tweak to ordering options. There was zero engineering qualification involved in rearranging options and lowering the price a bit.

And the touchbar is a usability killing gimmick that adds very little value.
 
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The modern G4 Cube.

Still, they've accepted the design decisions they made didn't pan out and they're moving to a more expandable architecture going forward.


The G4 Cube was a marvel. The only flaws were the high price and Product overlap. You could buy something more powerful for less.
 
Sad to say that a used HP workstation can be had for around $350 with the Mac Pro's power.
 
With respect, you don't know what you're talking about on all fronts.

Fact check: developers use mini, iMac, Pro and PC. You don't need a Mac to develop for iOS, there are other options to develop iOS using Windows PCs.

Actually, Apple can be great at both iOS and Mac, Apple doesn't need to excel at one and stuff up the other, it's possible to walk and chew gum, it's possible to focus on iOS and Mac, especially with billions in reserve to do it.

*******s do what Apple is doing today. Rubbish nonsense is what Apple puts out in press releases today. People who love technology, art and creativity do what Steve Jobs did, focused on both Mac and iOS, and mind you, all with less resources.

There is a difference being able to do something (in the physical sense) and wanting to do it.

Apple can easily donate billions to charity at the drop of a hat. They don't because there is no need to.

Same here. Yes, with the resources at their disposal, Apple could probably well afford to update their Macs regularly, even if it is just the obligatory spec bump every year. That they don't tells you just where the Mac sits in the greater scheme of things.

Whether it's the right move or not, we will let time be the final arbiter of that. But for the moment, Apple has decided that the pro market is something they cannot afford to alienate.

For now.
 
Great news! But I couldn't help but think a year away seems excessive to design a new Mac Pro? I would of thought most peeps would be happy with the old style pro in a modernised form.
 
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