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They're putting the camera on the horizontal side now, though.
It’s not clear if that will be the case with the Pencil 2. Maybe it will need a Pencil 3 to make a landscape camera compatible with inductive pencil charging.
 
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Is that the non-Pro version of the Vision Pro?
 
The iPad for me became such a useless device honestly. I have Kindle Oasis that covers all my needs in reading (except some PDFs and writing, so I will switch to Scribe next Prime Days). I have M2 Max MacBook Pro that covers all my professional and educational activity. And I have iPhone 13 Pro Max that covers all iOS-like experience that iPad delivers.

I just don’t see how can I use an iPad in its current state. It cannot replace MacBook. Even with Magic Keyboard it feels bulky and unnatural to use. It cannot afford something drastically more than iPhone (except Apple Pencil support). And if you’re not drawing in Procreate, it becomes useless for you.

I had iPad Pro 2017 for 6 years that I changed for iPad Pro M2 11". And I sold it after 3 months just because I understood that it just doesn’t fit well in any of my processes.
Would agree, but the things left for the iPad which it does best all of devices is: 1. reading magazines / newspapers and 2. watching movies on the road / train if internet connection is questionable (as unfortunately, you can't pre-download offline Netflix, Hulu, Disney, HBO Max etc. on MacOS).

Staying an additional iPad user mainly for those two user cases.
 
At that point it would probably be better off as a new line (iBook?) which is designed to be used docked primarily, with a more MacOS-like interface, but which could switch to a more iOS-like interface when undocked. iPadOS as-is would be wasted on a really large powerful device like that, and making it more desktop-friendly would likely undermine the tablet experience for those of us who just want what the current iPad lineup offers.
 
At that size, I would LOVE if it magnetically attached to a stand and served as an external display for a Mac. Then, can grab it when hitting the road and have a giant iPad.

Edit: should add, to spare others the time required to reply… This is already possible (thanks for the course-correct @darngooddesign). Funnier - I do this with my mini. 🤪 As you were.
 
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The iPad for me became such a useless device honestly. I have Kindle Oasis that covers all my needs in reading (except some PDFs and writing, so I will switch to Scribe next Prime Days). I have M2 Max MacBook Pro that covers all my professional and educational activity. And I have iPhone 13 Pro Max that covers all iOS-like experience that iPad delivers.

I just don’t see how can I use an iPad in its current state. It cannot replace MacBook. Even with Magic Keyboard it feels bulky and unnatural to use. It cannot afford something drastically more than iPhone (except Apple Pencil support). And if you’re not drawing in Procreate, it becomes useless for you.

I had iPad Pro 2017 for 6 years that I changed for iPad Pro M2 11". And I sold it after 3 months just because I understood that it just doesn’t fit well in any of my processes.
This is where I’m at. I have an iPad air 3 and I can’t justify upgrading it when I can just get a larger iPhone. As odd as it sounds, I never take my iPad when I travel. It’s always my phone and MBP.

I think iPads are done for anything but niche use cases (pilots carrying their publications, artists drawing, POS systems…). Funny because it’s the exact opposite of what Apple wanted to happen a few years ago.

Pro and Pro Max makes it easy to go mobile. And Macs are far more capable, people still love them even though they neglected and abused the line for years.
 
The iPad for me became such a useless device honestly. I have Kindle Oasis that covers all my needs in reading (except some PDFs and writing, so I will switch to Scribe next Prime Days). I have M2 Max MacBook Pro that covers all my professional and educational activity. And I have iPhone 13 Pro Max that covers all iOS-like experience that iPad delivers.

I just don’t see how can I use an iPad in its current state. It cannot replace MacBook. Even with Magic Keyboard it feels bulky and unnatural to use. It cannot afford something drastically more than iPhone (except Apple Pencil support). And if you’re not drawing in Procreate, it becomes useless for you.

I had iPad Pro 2017 for 6 years that I changed for iPad Pro M2 11". And I sold it after 3 months just because I understood that it just doesn’t fit well in any of my processes.
Well it is essential for those who use foreflight. The iPad shines wherever theres a technical manual that could be digitally replaced or a large navigation screen is needed. Other than that it’s the starter device for most children 10 and younger to keep them mind numbingly occupied 😂 its practicality is dwarfed by apples other products you mentioned. Certainly a 14” screen would be overkill. i guess for using the Apple pen it works well too but that hardly justifies the purchase.
 
Might as well just release a Mac with a touch screen like the MS Surface. 14 inches is a bit big for a tablet.
How do you know it's too big? The best you can say is that it's too big for you – but other people use their devices rather differently from you. Those of us with poor eyes, for example, will put up with the inconvenience of a larger size for the ability to see more pixels.

Whether it's iPhone Mini or 16" macBook, I don't understand this obsession with telling other people they need to use the same devices I use in the same way use them!
 
The iPad for me became such a useless device honestly. I have Kindle Oasis that covers all my needs in reading (except some PDFs and writing, so I will switch to Scribe next Prime Days). I have M2 Max MacBook Pro that covers all my professional and educational activity. And I have iPhone 13 Pro Max that covers all iOS-like experience that iPad delivers.

I just don’t see how can I use an iPad in its current state. It cannot replace MacBook. Even with Magic Keyboard it feels bulky and unnatural to use. It cannot afford something drastically more than iPhone (except Apple Pencil support). And if you’re not drawing in Procreate, it becomes useless for you.

I had iPad Pro 2017 for 6 years that I changed for iPad Pro M2 11". And I sold it after 3 months just because I understood that it just doesn’t fit well in any of my processes.

Same for me. The alternative to an M1 Air would be the iPad Pro 12.9" with the magic keyboard. Much more expensive, heavier, less stable, worse keyboard and trackpad, and limited OS. Never understood the point of tablets. Only thing that makes sense is if you want to draw/write.
 
How would you even use an iPad this big? The current 12.9 is already too unwieldy for me. Put it on a swivel arm?
It seems to me that the only practical ways to use a 16-inch iPad would be as a laptop replacement with Magic Keyboard or as an external monitor for something like a Mac Mini. Which is fine. I used to have a 12.9-inch iPad Pro. I kept it about a year and traded down to an 11-inch Pro because it was too heavy for handheld use. More recently, I’ve been using a 10th-generation iPad most of the time and an iPad Mini in bed. Both have enough power for what I use a tablet for these days.
 
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