Actually, Hey is developed by the folks behind the very successful Basecamp app/platform, so Hey might go away at some point, but not in the way you describe.
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Apple Approves Basecamp's Email App 'Hey' With Newly Added 14-Day Free Account Option [Updated]
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Actually, Hey is developed by the folks behind the very successful Basecamp app/platform, so Hey might go away at some point, but not in the way you describe.
Yes I know it's not a typo. Still sounds ridiculous though.
Phil has long since outlived his usefulness. Unfortunately his lieutenants are all loyalists, so even his departure probably wouldn't change anything at this point.
And to squelch Apple's song and dance a few years ago, Phil Schiller has owned 100% of app store policy and app review since its inception.
And to squelch Apple's song and dance a few years ago, Phil Schiller has owned 100% of app store policy and app review since its inception.
What's your legal opinion on United States v. Microsoft Corporation, 253 F.3d 34 (D.C. Cir. 2001)?
I’ve been using HEY for several days and I just don’t understand why everybody thinks it’s so amazing.
All of this drama about their App Store rejection has totally obscured the conversation about the value versus other paid options.
It’s an incredibly simplistic take on email that really is not going to be useful for a ton of people that are normally in the demographic of paying email customers/users.
It seems specifically geared towards people that perhaps are prominent or popular and just have an unbelievable massive firehose of email coming in every single day and Hey is built around helping triage that.
If that doesn’t fit your description I think you’re gonna notice a lot of missing features.
I’ve just been completely mesmerized by all these people online tripping over themselves to try to get an invite. It is not that revolutionary folks… Calm down…
Brian Chen had a very good balanced take
All of this drama about their App Store rejection has totally obscured the conversation about the value versus other paid options.
It’s an incredibly simplistic take on email that really is not going to be useful for a ton of people that are normally in the demographic of paying email customers/users.
It seems specifically geared towards people that perhaps are prominent or popular and just have an unbelievable massive firehose of email coming in every single day and Hey is built around helping triage that.
If that doesn’t fit your description I think you’re gonna notice a lot of missing features.
I’ve just been completely mesmerized by all these people online tripping over themselves to try to get an invite. It is not that revolutionary folks… Calm down…
Brian Chen had a very good balanced take
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Just so it's clear, the version approved by Apple this morning was not the version with the new features, it was the bugfix version they rejected that started this whole debacle. Hey turned around and submitted the new version with the free trial period today but it hasn't been approved yet.
Why is it the third party developers' responsibility to foot the bill for the App Store? You can only access the App Store by spending a premium on an Apple device and Apple is selling those devices based on the work these third-party developers have done ("there's an app for that" campaign for one).
It's hard to believe we're still in a time where people assume their workflow is everyone's workflow.
I don't understand why people keep on bringing up that HEY is a bad email app or that "nobody would pay $99 for email".
It's totally irrelevant to the issue.
It's totally irrelevant to the issue.
Wait...so they approved the version they said last week wasn’t following the rules and wouldn’t be approved?
Shame. I thought they will finally finish this 30% cut wining. Apple created platform, tools, upgrades, security, verification process, easy and secure payment solutions. Every developer knows the rules before starts writing an app or inventing a service. I wonder why Best Buy is not sued by Samsung or LG for putting markup on the prices...? It's insane....everyone wants everything and for free. How this guy justifies paying a subscription for an email ??? and can't understand the cut for providing all tools to create, maintain and sell his product ???????
If you read Fried's announcement on their site closely for the timeline (not a dig, it's not clearly stated) that yes, it was the previous version that was approved.
We will always be in that time.
Apparently, but only with a promise that there would be a new version that adds the free account. Apple’s done that in the past, too. They’ve let me by with that sort of warning a couple times - standard procedure for them.
The App Store rules don't really matter since Apple doesn't enforce them properly and Apple will absolutely say anything to justify its actions. The whole "you download the app and it doesn't work" and "business apps are separate from consumer apps" are not actual App Store rules even though Apple has been floating them around.
There are certain laws in place that prevent companies from discriminating against people and customers for *any* reason.
What laws are those? I mean, sure, there are certain protected classes of people you can’t discriminate against, but I’d be real interested to see what laws you are talking about.
I agree. I use Gmail and iCloud for email. I don't need to spend $99 a year. I am sure, this will disappear at some point
Gmail and iCloud, follow classic email, which has been going on for what... 30 or 40yrs? I saw the implementation they brought up and I like it, even though I wish they had a month-to-month option. The changes they brought forward were pretty significant, and with google spying on everything you send on gmail and the clunkyness of iCloud email I think this new way of sorting it is new and refreshing.
My biggest concern with the platform is that at this moment and time, they do not support custom domains, and their "team" strategy cost is not defined. I would change my business email to this format, if I knew the price but its a gamble.
I am still on the fence if I'm going to try it for the next year myself, but after navigating my email through the thousand email junk I receive in gmail myself I am very tempted to go for it.
you read the article? Basecamp added a feature to comply with rules. Honestly, I don't know what all this whining is about 1) google charges the same "tax", 2) Companies with subscriptions (e.g. Spotify) allow sign up off App Store and customers sign up for free from google play or App Store.
The difference being that Google doesn't force you to distribute your application through the Play Store and Google doesn't force you to use their payment system for subscriptions.
You can take out an Android phone, download the Apple Music app from the Google Play Store, open it up and subscribe to Apple Music without an in-app purchase. Google will not see a cent from your subscription. I don't think Apple even has to pay a yearly fee to Google to keep using the Play Store.