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Apple Argues to Get App Store Injunction Thrown Out in Epic v. Apple Appeal
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When antitrust regulators identify a company as having a dominant position in a market (e.g., part of a duopoly in mobile OS), restricting access for competitors (e.g., browser or browser engine companies, payment system companies, etc.) in that market can potentially be considered anticompetitive behavior and violating antitrust laws.
In the U.S., Apple (iOS) has approximately 57% share of the mobile OS market and Google (Android) has approximately 43% share. Because Apple and Google dominate mobile OS, their business activities understandably come under more antitrust scrutiny. Apple especially as they have more of a restrictive "walled garden" with iOS than Google has with Android.
I agree that others would try, but there is a point of diminishing returns and that was a while ago.
Are Shipt, InstaCart, and Door Dash shopping at Sam's Club or Costco for you?
He did specifically say "ecosystems", plus the fact one is filesystem-based while the other is container-based (for the most part) doesn't preclude the possibility of open stores. Heck, I think the concept of "store" suits a phone better than a computer.
Except Apple is mostly right here. Why would a judgement in a case with one developer — who isn't on the platform anymore — require them to open this to every developer?
It's hard not to view this as a bizarre overreach of the court.
I have an Apple fan in my group. Big one at that ($10K of Mac equipment, uses an iPhone, bought an iPad for his wife, who also uses an iPhone). When I mentioned that Apple is becoming more and more like the Big Brother they mocked in their 1984 TV ad, even he had to admit that they were always like that. They just did a better job of hiding it back then was all.
Huh, they made a Fortnite parody of that 2 years ago!....
I suppose Apple is "better" in where when the countries or regions they operate in call for changes, they have the courtesy to call them out ahead of time, then ask for special treatment.
Funny... Epic didn't mind being on stage at the iPad introduction in 2010 announcing their Infinity Blade game.
And Epic didn't have a problem cashing all those checks from Apple when they were making A MILLION DOLLARS PER DAY with Fortnite.
But sure... Apple is evil... and they're mean to Epic...
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Apple still does business in the EU, regardless of the state where they were sued by Epic
Because Apple kicked them out
We've seen them do this kind of preferential treatment with Zoom (I think) where they had access to camera in split screen on iPads, which other apps wouldn't do. Obviously developers were pissed. Why would doing it again be better?
Sometimes I wonder what does not count as government overreach to some people
Well, you do own the device, buy not the software. Obviously the OS is IP and you are getting the license to use it.
That might be the (arguably sad) reality you live, but in the EU thankfully the copy of the OS on our phones is ours.
Of course
Yeah, your computer, but Apple's software (IP) so they have the full rights decide it's user rights.
Unless Apple and other owners of IP (phones or otherwise) decide to take their marbles and go home.....not too practical...but look at MS pulled all Win sales and support from Russia.
I seems that the EU is heading towards a stagnation in tech, as they are telling every company how their products have to be made/designed, so none of the companies can innovate and come up with connectors, etc. I personally don't want a phone with a USB-C connector, they are too fragile and if you damage it, you are looking at a new mother board. With the Lightning, if I should stupidly snap off the connector, I just take pic and pull out the broken part. Just my .02
They're free to do so if they deem it useful. But they won't seeing the % of cash that flows towards Apple from the EU
This argument is really popular among deniers, but you see...
You can innovate all you want. But when consumers and the market suffer from the results of your innovation, it ends up killing further innovation. So the EU has decided to make at least an effort to prevent whatever-opolies.
About USB-C, it's really about unifying the connectors on phones, and I'm all for it. If you have a fragile cable, it might be worth it to either buy a more sturdy one, or maybe treat it more delicately?
Can you provide a reference of the EU law that gives you the ownership of the software instead of licensing the software?
I am not a hater or anything, in fact I am very open minded. I am just of the thought that government should stay out telling businesses how to do build or make their products. Because once you start, where does it stop? At some point do all cars now have to have the same tires, same engine, to make it easier for the consumer ? ,etc.... My work (major global finance corp) laptop is a 2019 13" MBP and from plugging in the USB-C everyday, it's now become loose and I have to wiggle it or have it sent out for repair....new motherboard.
Also if any companies yield to a government with their IP that can open a can of worms in other countries as you just set a precedent. I would think that in the long run it's better to walk away then give up your IP in different countries...but I have been wrong before.
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Which is fine until said company starts violating antitrust regulations, regardless if it's about making their products or not.
European countries don't follow common law (which is based on precedent); they're based on civil law.
Besides, something doesn't become exempt from antitrust investigations by virtue of being intellectual property
And Apple didn't mind taking billions from Google to have their search engine as the default, but that didn't stop them from bashing them.