Apple as Mass Market Company

[edesignuk]

If you aren't an Apple freak/fan, what the hell are you doing on this website?

You are allowed to like a companies products without being blinded from the outside world you know 🙄 Fact is that Apple don't, and aren't ever likely to, manufacture their own panels. They will always be buying the same panels from the same suppliers as everyone else, then over charging for the "design" of the case they wrap around it.

 

[AidenShaw]

And of course, Microsoft's best ideas come from Apple.

We won't mention PARC, will we?

Or even Rowenta - where the Bondi iMac design originated.

 

[iDrinkKoolAid]

When Jobs killed those lines of products it was because Apple was in trouble, and needed to concentrate on their main line.

Now Apple is doing very well and can afford to deal with several product lines.

When Apple gave up their printer busuiness it was making a profit. Same thing with scanners. The Newton had just taken off as a product when he killed it. That was too bad.

I wish Apple resuscitated ATG, which was responsible for Speakable Items. I think it's highly useful. I show my friends, and they are immediately impressed.

 

[iDrinkKoolAid]

Bose to do this.

Bose is not the best, although their overpriced Wave Radio does sound pretty good.

What are my credentials to make such an assertion? I'm a graduate student in audio engineering, have worked at four audio companies, and been an audiophile since I was 17. I have a friend who works at Bose who tells me some secrets.

I guess Bose would be all right for an Apple stereo, but what about Harman Multimedia? After all, they made the SoundSticks and Creature speakers, which are more in-line with Apple's industrial design.

 

[iDrinkKoolAid]

Bang & Olufsen would be closer in terms of aesthetics, and price 😛

Bang & Olufsen have improved much as of late. Of course I'm biased since I own their telephone. Their speakers used to suck. Now they are one of the best I've heard, especially their BeoLab 5 speaker.

 

[iDrinkKoolAid]

I agree with you - the lack of gaming really does hurt Apple's ability to enter the set-top box market.

Maybe when the Mac Mini goes MacTel, it could do games better. It just needs to move from that Radeon 9200 video card to something like the X600, which could be cheap enough by the time the MacTel Mini comes out.

 

[Lynxpro]

You are allowed to like a companies products without being blinded from the outside world you know 🙄 Fact is that Apple don't, and aren't ever likely to, manufacture their own panels. They will always be buying the same panels from the same suppliers as everyone else, then over charging for the "design" of the case they wrap around it.

Excuse me, but do you think Apple builds Macs in their own plants anymore? Every part of manufacturing amongst computer companies is outsourced. Taiwanese companies physically build Apple's machines. If you are so anti-brand, then you should buy products straight from the true Asian manufacturers. You know, like Tautang.

Do you think Microsoft builds the Xbox? Nope, that's Flextronics that does it. Try buying a Flextronics branded Xbox.

Your argument is null and void.

 

[Lynxpro]

We won't mention PARC, will we?

Apple owned shares in Xerox and a technological licensing agreement. They had a right to "copy" ideas from Xerox PARC. Microsoft did not [have a right to copy Xerox ideas]. Today, Microsoft and Apple have various cross licensed intellectual property, but that doesn't grant Microsoft the right to copy OS X's Acqua GUI completely for Longhorn.

Nintendo never owned part of Atari. Yet great ideas, like using a Gameboy Advance as a "smart controller" with the GameCube was taken from dreamed up ideas from Atari that never were implemented because the company went under, such as using a Lynx as a "smart controller" with the Jaguar console.

 

[Nickygoat]

Excuse me, but do you think Apple builds Macs in their own plants anymore? Every part of manufacturing amongst computer companies is outsourced. Taiwanese companies physically build Apple's machines. If you are so anti-brand, then you should buy products straight from the true Asian manufacturers. You know, like Tautang.

Do you think Microsoft builds the Xbox? Nope, that's Flextronics that does it. Try buying a Flextronics branded Xbox.

Your argument is null and void.

It's not anti-brand. You can buy the same panel from a number of different makers, or resellers if you prefer to call them that. You can't buy a Mac like that. Yes I know Apple don't make their own computers but their machines are unique on the high street, in terms of case design, hardware and software. That's not something you can say about most Wintel manufacturers. The screen, however, is exactly the same so why pay more, unless you're that bothered about the look? Or have money to burn.

 

[edesignuk]

Excuse me, but do you think Apple builds Macs in their own plants anymore? Every part of manufacturing amongst computer companies is outsourced. Taiwanese companies physically build Apple's machines. If you are so anti-brand, then you should buy products straight from the true Asian manufacturers. You know, like Tautang.

Do you think Microsoft builds the Xbox? Nope, that's Flextronics that does it. Try buying a Flextronics branded Xbox.

Your argument is null and void.

It's not the same thing IMO. Building a computer involves actually deciding on what parts to use, making sure they work with each other, sourcing the parts, and getting the things built. Regardless of if you (as in Apple) are actually constructing them themselves, they do put some effort it. I don't think the same can be said for the screens. They go out and grab a bunch of the same panels as everyone else, slap it in a pretty case and up their price tag a few notches.

Not "null and void."

 

[andiwm2003]

You are allowed to like a companies products without being blinded from the outside world you know 🙄 Fact is that Apple don't, and aren't ever likely to, manufacture their own panels. They will always be buying the same panels from the same suppliers as everyone else, then over charging for the "design" of the case they wrap around it.

well, from top of my mind i know already 5 people who bought flat screen tv's based on their design. as soon as the screen quality is good enough they made their decision only based on how cool it looks, how it fit in their living room. they didn't care about exact specs at all.

apple will be able to make the quality of the screen good enough.

if they make a design that appeals to people, add an ipod connector and add apples exclusive image they would sell.

i personally would go with the low price, good enough quality approach though.

If you aren't an Apple freak/fan, what the hell are you doing on this website?

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