Apple Asks Developers for OS X Lion Mac App Store Submissions

[res1233]

I don't understand why they're moving to full disk encryption. Encrypting the home directory seems most efficient - it encrypts your private stuff, while not wasting time encrypting system folders, etc. If you have content you don't want encrypted (for full speed), you can just put it outside your home folder (like my iTunes media).

It isn't "Full Disk Encryption", rather it's encryption at the disk level, which should allow for file by file encryption, or for files within a specific directory, such as the home directory. There were problems with the current approach which involves a disk image. Disk images can sometimes become corrupt for various reasons, which would then lock you out of your home directory. Filesystem encryption is far safer, and potentially faster.

EDIT: Although FileVault 2 does in fact encrypt the entire drive, it seems likely that you may be able to change that behavior either through the GUI or via command line, however we'll just have to wait and see. The performance shouldn't suffer much, at least based on what they say. I don't know enough about filesystem encryption to comment on that. Common sense says there will be a slight load-time performance impact, but that wouldn't really amount to much.

 

[finkmacunix]

And so Apple's Vista begins................................................................ Just kidding



That is one, but there are a number of things Lion apps can take advantage of that Snow Leopard can't.

There is a Mac way of saying this…

"And so, Apple's new Copland begins"

 

[nomad411]

Working in a school district about to deploy 1000 machines after the order arrives... Lion looks like a horrible nightmare.

Or a Rightmare

 

[BornAgainMac]

I don't understand why they're moving to full disk encryption. Encrypting the home directory seems most efficient - it encrypts your private stuff, while not wasting time encrypting system folders, etc. If you have content you don't want encrypted (for full speed), you can just put it outside your home folder (like my iTunes media).

I remember reading how easy it was to hack a Mac if some of it wasn't encrypted. Perhaps system files and such. So the decision was made to encrypt the entire thing. A hacker could probably provide more details than me.

 

[Krevnik]

I remember reading how easy it was to hack a Mac if some of it wasn't encrypted. Perhaps system files and such. So the decision was made to encrypt the entire thing. A hacker could probably provide more details than me.

Full disk encryption doesn't protect against that type of attack though. By definition, this type of encryption is transparent to the running system (and all apps running in it). That means file permissions are still your line of defense for elevation of privilege attacks.

What full disk encryption does provide is privacy of data where they can't simply remove the disk, shove it in another machine, and read all your files. They won't be able to read the files without the key, which can be "smashed" (aka deleted) to perform a wipe. Imagine remote wipe but for your laptop.

 

[Chupa Chupa]

There is a Mac way of saying this…

"And so, Apple's new Copland begins"

Except that Copeland was vaporware, Vista and Lion are not, so doesn't really make sense even loosely.

 

[AidenShaw]

Lion is vaporware

Except that Copeland was vaporware, Vista and Lion are not, so doesn't really make sense even loosely.

Technically, Apple will have to ship 10.7.0 to customers to make it real - until then, it actually is vaporware.

 

[Undecided]

Probably just a marketing thing because it sounds better instead of "partial disk encryption". I agree, seems a bit inefficient, but my guess is it's like "HD". Most people don't understand it but it just sells product.

Agreed. One good thing that might come out of it is better cooperation with Time Machine. That is, hopefully with Apple's implementation of full disk encryption, it will back up to Time Machine while logged in.

 

[Sofabutt]

Early adopters will suffer

As anyone who has been using OS X for a while knows, anyone who adopts a new OS X version or update will suffer serious issues, poorly implemented features, bugs, etc. until at least the first or second updates are released.

Apple has a crappy record releasing new software to the masses...

 

[wilhoitm]

Anyone know what specific APIs were added in Lion?

I was at WWDC, the APIs are under NDA but if you look at the Lion features you can imagine a lot of API changes and a lot of new APIs!

http://www.apple.com/macosx/whats-new/features.html

Marcus

 

[naix]

you could download gm. It's already released -.-'

 

[wilhoitm]

As anyone who has been using OS X for a while knows, anyone who adopts a new OS X version or update will suffer serious issues, poorly implemented features, bugs, etc. until at least the first or second updates are released.

Apple has a crappy record releasing new software to the masses...

Yes but we early adopters love to suffer! That is why we are early adopters! A lot of us have been running the pre-release version for months now and so we already know what works and what doesn't! And a good early adopter has already usually found work arounds!

Marcus

 

[wilhoitm]

you could download gm. It's already released -.-'

Yes, but Apple could change 5 bits out of the 4GB download and the GM version number upped. LOL! And then you are screwed!

Marcus

 

[Darien Red Sox]

As anyone who has been using OS X for a while knows, anyone who adopts a new OS X version or update will suffer serious issues, poorly implemented features, bugs, etc. until at least the first or second updates are released.

Apple has a crappy record releasing new software to the masses...

Yes, that's way I am not making any mistakes this time. I am installing a fresh copy of Lion on a new Hard Drive and then installing that one in my MBP. If it has issues I can always go back to snow leopard by just swapping drives back.

 

[Darien Red Sox]

Yes but we early adopters love to suffer! That is why we are early adopters! A lot of us have been running the pre-release version for months now and so we already know what works and what doesn't! And a good early adopter has already usually found work arounds!

Marcus

When SL was released I needed to find a walk around for my printer. Canon did not make it well known that they were driver issues with SL and network printing.

 

[Undecided]

I hope Lion addresses the problem with iTunes HD rentals video pausing periodically. It's really annoying.

 

[finkmacunix]

Except that Copeland was vaporware, Vista and Lion are not, so doesn't really make sense even loosely.

No, Vista was not Vaporware, Longhorn was…

 

[akira2501]

cpt

factor in that it wont have to be printed to disk, and it should be out sooner rather than later

 

[dmkidd]

meeh

Friday!!!! Bring it apple!

 

[bplein]

As anyone who has been using OS X for a while knows, anyone who adopts a new OS X version or update will suffer serious issues, poorly implemented features, bugs, etc. until at least the first or second updates are released.

Apple has a crappy record releasing new software to the masses...

I upgraded to Leopard shortly after its release, and to Snow Leopard immediately, and in each case had zero problems across several Macbooks and MacBook Pros. There were lots of teething problems for ~some~ apps or ~some~ systems, but by saying that "anyone who adopts a new OS X version or update will suffer serious issues" is clearly wrong.

 

[varunsanthanam]

Lion Apps will feature IAP, Push Notifications, and CoreLocation, right? Those are the major ones I think...

 

[varunsanthanam]

I hope Lion addresses the problem with iTunes HD rentals video pausing periodically. It's really annoying.

iTunes 10.5 beta 2 fixes that. September Expected Release.

 

[Yamcha]

Yes, but Apple could change 5 bits out of the 4GB download and the GM version number upped. LOL! And then you are screwed!

Marcus

Not really, the final would eventually be leaked and available for download.

Anyway I think the Lion app submission is a good sign, it probably means the release will be very soon.. I'm hoping for next week.

 

[akm3]

Yep, but they need time to review the apps, I don't think they are going to be able to review a lot of them if the rumored date of the 14st were right.

It's not like there ARE a lot of them. There are hardly any apps in the (Mac) app store compared to the iOS app store. A good portion of them are already Lion ready. They are only talking about a few hundred 'important' apps to make sure they are to date for launch.

Yes I'm talking out my a$$.

 

[black743]

Well I use my Mac for iTunes and syncing my iPod, iPhone and iPad. Other than that, its mainly used for surfing the net and maybe using Chat.

Anyone have any issues with any of those in their testing?