No offense, but that is a terrible analogy.
And who cares if Apple manages to get jailbreaking considered illegal. Developers will still create methods of doing so and will use different channels for distribution. It will never go away.
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Apple Asks Federal Government to Stop iPhone Jailbreaking
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No offense, but that is a terrible analogy.
And who cares if Apple manages to get jailbreaking considered illegal. Developers will still create methods of doing so and will use different channels for distribution. It will never go away.
Same here. I wouldn't go to Android crap though. I'd just get a regular phone and save some cash. After having an iPhone, everything else is a step down.
I would think that Apple would be more cautious about this kind of conversation that might prompt anti-trust (monopoly) questions about their own business practices.
This is stupid.
Is not like somebody forces you to jailbreak your iPhone, it's all up to you to do it. The iphone, for me, wouldn't be that great if it wasn't for the jailbreaking. I'm really against piracy but they got to understand that not everyone jailbreak their device to just to pirate apps. I really like what the jailbreaking community offers like customization, apps and other great stuff like tethering.
I personally believe Apple doesn't like jailbreaking because having we have the future apple features.
Like most of ios 4.0 features were available for those jailbreaked devices or through Cydia.
STEVE JOBS, I REALLY APPRECIATED THE DEV TEAMS AND THE JAILBREAKING COMMUNITY. AND YOUR IDCEICES WOULDN'T BE THE SAME WITHOUT THEM. SO FU FOR THIS ONE
Is not like somebody forces you to jailbreak your iPhone, it's all up to you to do it. The iphone, for me, wouldn't be that great if it wasn't for the jailbreaking. I'm really against piracy but they got to understand that not everyone jailbreak their device to just to pirate apps. I really like what the jailbreaking community offers like customization, apps and other great stuff like tethering.
I personally believe Apple doesn't like jailbreaking because having we have the future apple features.
Like most of ios 4.0 features were available for those jailbreaked devices or through Cydia.STEVE JOBS, I REALLY APPRECIATED THE DEV TEAMS AND THE JAILBREAKING COMMUNITY. AND YOUR IDCEICES WOULDN'T BE THE SAME WITHOUT THEM. SO FU FOR THIS ONE
Not sure I buy that argument, if I bought a new iPhone 4 tomorrow on a new contract, AT&T charges me $199 for the phone, if I cancel say 2 days later, the phone is still mine, AT&T just charges me $325.00 because I want to cancel my contract, still the phone is mine?
If Apple really wanted to they can push updates out to your phone, or force a non Jailbreaking scenario, they are trying to get the Government to do this so they do not have costs involved, kinda smart if you ask me, otherwise they have legal fees, and would have to pay developers to prevent JB phones.
This logic would make sense if AT&T decided to reduce the monthly cost if you bought the phone off-contract, thus implying that you are not being subsidized monthly for a cheaper phone. At this time, however, they will charge you the same whether you buy the phone outright or on a two-year contract. If you decide to break the contract, of course you will have to pay back a part of the ETF. However, I see absolutely no point in buying a phone off-contract until I can get a break in my monthly bill similar to what T-Mobile does.
None taken
If Jailbreaking was deemed illegal it would cause slower releases of programs like redsn0w
That may be a half true, the hardware isn't Apple's. But the iOS software is owned by Apple. And since the software is what is being modified in a jailbreak, that is what matters.
How much did you pay for your SIM free iPhone? is there really an Apple issued SIM free iPhone? please let me know b/c in June 2011 I dont want to be on a 2yr contract with at&t.
I was just about to ask if jailbreaking changes the code.
This is kinda interesting stuff. So if a person buys software they are not able to change it? I'm asking this out of ignorance, not rhetorically...what is illegal about a person buying something and then doing whatever they want with it as long as they don't steal something proprietary and then try to profit from it?
I can understand the argument about modifying the phone to do things on the network that Apple has specifically tried to limit. Like 3G Unrestrictor, for example. But what is wrong with jailbreaking a phone and doing purely cosmetic things to it?
But that is the price they offer at local at&t store if you want to buy it w/o contract, but it'll still be locked with the local carrier (in this case at&t) right? I meant factory, real factory unlocked.
I couldn't agree more. I've already messed around with a ton of other phones. I still prefer a jailbroken iPhone. However, if I could no longer jailbreak it...
Purchase an iPhone out of contract and unlocked from Canada or the UK those are factory unlocks
if you purchase in america it will still be locked to AT&T
Personally, I like iOS the way it is. I've been using it for years and never even thought of jailbreaking it. But if you think Apple sucks maybe you should switch to Android
Good. Dont jailbreak. I thought the phone was fine the way it was, then I jailbroke it and it made the phone 10x better, to the point where if I couldn't get certain jailbreak apps like bite, sbsettings, my3g etc, I wouldn't buy an iPhone. I couldn't go back to stock.
Jailbreaking modifies iOS.
They are only able to modify the software in accordance with the license that Apple grants them. And within the limitations to Apple's exclusive copyrights listed in copyright law.
IP is different than physical property. Copyright right law gives Apple exclusive rights to reproduce, distribute, and prepare derivative works of iOS subject to certain limitations.
Basically, you agree to a contract (Software License Agreement) that prohibits you from doing those things.
Realistically, Apple isn't going to sue you if you jailbreak to change some icons or whatever. They're main concerns with jailbreaking are likely that it enables app piracy and allows things like tethering that are against some carriers' contracts.
I could go back to stock but it would suck. It would be like watching HD and then having to go back to SD. Blech.
I still haven't come across anything that lets me take this "report" seriously.
I've traced it to this: http://www.wect.com/Global/story.asp?S=13839395 posted Jan 13.
WECT seems to be an NBC affiliate in North Carolina. Unfortunately, they don't provide a source for the Apple quote, which sounds suspiciously like an EFF summary of the position Apple took a year ago when they were actively trying to stop the Copyright office declaring jailbreaking legal (the Apple document doesn't actually use the word "illegal") (http://www.copyright.gov/1201/2008/responses/apple-inc-31.pdf)
Nothing makes me think Apple is trying anything new to get jailbreaking made illegal.
I've traced it to this: http://www.wect.com/Global/story.asp?S=13839395 posted Jan 13.
WECT seems to be an NBC affiliate in North Carolina. Unfortunately, they don't provide a source for the Apple quote, which sounds suspiciously like an EFF summary of the position Apple took a year ago when they were actively trying to stop the Copyright office declaring jailbreaking legal (the Apple document doesn't actually use the word "illegal") (http://www.copyright.gov/1201/2008/responses/apple-inc-31.pdf)
Nothing makes me think Apple is trying anything new to get jailbreaking made illegal.
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well there is this…
http://www.walb.com/Global/story.asp?S=13828282
WALB is apparently an NBC affiliate.
Still it seems rather odd that no other NBC news outlets are readily corroborating this "NBC" story. If one small NBC affiliate publishes something, does that equate "Says NBC"? Kinda pretty sure they have a clause that makes sure they're not held to that.
Ah, that was posted a day earlier than the WECT report I found, which looks like a word-for-word copy. The whole story smacks to me of some filler material an intern posted.
Hasn't stopped it becoming the meme of today - http://www.google.com/search?client...pyrights+in+those+programs"&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
Edit: Actually, this looks like it might be the original source:
http://www.thegrio.com/news/college-student-makes-jailbreaking-a-business.php
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