Um, not to judge or anything, but I don't think anyone should be so emotionally invested in a company that they only purchase products from, to the extent that they can get "emotionally damaged" by actions that company takes....
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Apple Asks for $379 Million in Damages Retrial Against Samsung
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Um, not to judge or anything, but I don't think anyone should be so emotionally invested in a company that they only purchase products from, to the extent that they can get "emotionally damaged" by actions that company takes....
It's not like they did it out of the goodness of their hearts. They were paid to do a job just like any other contractor.
Don't think Samsung deserves being sued? I'm personally confused how a company like that can exist. I thought ethics were an important part of business.
I can sell a piece of dung for $650. Doesn't make it high-end...Good artist copy. Great artist steal.
Check out this video and you'll Apple hasn't done much inventing. Remixing sure, but inventing nope. Sorry, rounded corners don't count.
Oh and for the cheap low end phones...ever heard of the Galaxy S4? Not exactly cheap...
In the world of business, the ethical companies are only the ones who haven't been caught yet.
Seek counseling, now. Don't admire a company that doesn't give a damn about you except for calculating how much money it can suck from your bank account.
If you get a Samsung TV, cross your fingers that it doesn't break due to a design flaw. When mine did, Samsung told me to GFY.
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That would be, oh let's see ... all of them, no?
So what you're saying is that people name Bob should be drug out into the streets and shot, because people with less than 4 letters in their name don't deserve the right to live?
...yeah, you can make up all kinds of arguments when you put words in peoples mouth!
Samsung is the biggest copycat in the history of technology. Their market share is made up of cheap low end phones. Not a fan at all. Not because I own apple products but because they have no vision and nothing of interest to me other than TV's. Ok bye.
I was thinking the same thing... the phones are just as high end as apple's.
I think the OP was trying to say that the bulk of Samsung's apparent profits in mobile phones come from their numerous lower end offerings, and not necessarily from these "prestige" models they market.
In addition to removing any trace of the word "android" from their marketing materials a couple of years ago, one of their best tricks was to convince the unwashed internet masses to believe that the Galaxy is their brand, just like the iPhone is Apple's brand.
A masterfully diabolical part of this plan was announcing in mid-2011 that they would stop reporting individual phones sales data to the public when their business was tanking. Now, two years and $4b/year in advertising later, they are seemingly the only really profitable android phone maker. How do we know this last part? Because they said so, that's how!
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After all, unlike the benchmarks and leather/stitching on the Note 3, the astroturfers, the paid shill endorsements, and stealing most of their repertoire I'm sure their books are real, lol.
He didn't say the Galaxy S3 and S4 were cheap low end phones, he said Samsung's market share in general was made up of cheap low end phones.
And that would be true assuming we're talking of worldwide market share.
U.S. market share is another story, and it's true that high-end Samsung phones (Galaxy S/Note lines) sell a lot more, but I doubt he'd even be defending Apple's US marketshare because he wouldn't need to. Apple sells significantly more smartphones than Samsung in the U.S., even including all Samsung ranges of phones.
There's a huge discrepancy in average selling price by smartphone OS, with the average iPhone going for ~$640 vs ~$280 for the average Android phone according to the latest IDC numbers. Those are unsubsidized prices of course.
For reference, $280 is roughly the price of a Galaxy Ace: 480x320 TFT screen, ARM 11 CPU, 158 MB internal storage, 278 MB RAM, HSDPA, Android 2.3 Gingerbread...
Simply put, Samsung is only winning the market share race in areas where cheap low-end phones are popular.
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If they hadn't copied, they'd be selling almost zero phones. Perfect example of how hard it is to protect IP.
Except that is simply not even remotely true.
There were plenty of MP3 players on the market before the iPod. And Apple's grip on the MP3 player market was at its peak when the iPod was hard drive based and used relatively little actual memory. At that time - and since - Apple's purchase of memory didn't prevent a competitor of the size and power of Microsoft introducing and marketing a competing player, the Zune. They could hardly have done that if Apple had cornered the market in any component necessary to mass produce an alternative. Microsoft may have little regard for their customers, but they truly understand the supply chain.
The reality is that Apple's 'monopoly' came from just one factor: design. They were the first company to make an MP3 player which combined simplicity of use with capacity and a form factor users found compelling. That there were other players from other manufacturers preceding it proves that the market wanted this product, just as much as that no-one else came close to satisfying that demand.
Yeah exactly what I said and on the same subject...
Sorry, I do not have any remorse for Samsung, I'd be happy if Apple continued to sue them even if it meant they lost 10 times more in lawyer fees than what they gained in profits from the trials. Shameless copying, intentionally ignoring court orders to get competitive edge by disclosing confidential Apple documents, did I mention shameless copying? The problem is, even if Samsung were to lose all their profits, it still puts them out into the market and they are that much further ahead in the smart phone game. It's a win for them even if they lose some money in trials, it at least deserve some consequences.
Well no, you shouldn't have any remorse for Samsung, nor should you feel vindicated now that Apple's won. Samsung was found guilty for infringing on a series of Apple's patents, but then again, a goodly bit those patents shouldn't have passed muster in the first place.
To me, Apple isn't a shining beacon of goodness in cesspit of corporate corruption. They might not be as bad as some, but they're not necessarily much better, either. Everyone in the business of making money plays dirty at some point.
wake me
wake me up when someone actually sets a firm date when samsung is to have paid apple anything by, and they actually do it. regardless of the amount i doubt apple will ever see any of the money they are owed.
what would happen if samsung just doesn't pay? and by when? and by who?
wake me up when someone actually sets a firm date when samsung is to have paid apple anything by, and they actually do it. regardless of the amount i doubt apple will ever see any of the money they are owed.
what would happen if samsung just doesn't pay? and by when? and by who?
Less expensive phones are popular everywhere. Doesn't necessarily mean they're low end.
Apple themselves greatly depend on being low priced to attract users. Apple has top market share mostly/only in places where phones are subsidized.
Poor sales in regions without subsidies is what has motivated Apple to come up with trade-in and/or loan programs.
On the contrary, Samsung's sales didn't take off until they stopped looking like an iPhone 3G, and went their own way with larger screens, slim bodies, custom homescreens and widgets, etc.
The court which ordered the payment would be forced to compel them - if necessary by freezing and seizing their assets. Samsung can ignore the court, but they can't avoid their jurisdiction.
Like Samsung is any less ethical than Apple, who has stolen numerous ideas over the years and patented them as their own inventions.
All I care about is that behavior like Samsung's is not rewarded. I don't care about Apple's win, that has no benefit to me. It's what the win means... Real work should reap benefit, not this knock off ********.
