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Interesting strategy by Apple. Strangle people in a job without benefits, and give them a remote chance of recognition through this program. Everyone will try really hard, apple will get a couple great ideas, and all they have to do is fly 1 dude over to Cupertino for a week.

Schiller should have done this before he pulled the new Mac "Pro" out of his a$$.


:rolleyes:
 
I can tell you from personal experience the answer as to why this was specified. And you're right, it sticks out like a sore thumb. The reason is that if an employee were to write up or develop his/her ideas while not on the clock, the company would be obligated to PAY the employee for their time, which they have no desire to do.

The thing that's absurd about it is that, let's say I'm an employee and I want to focus on my job and write this up on my own time and I DON'T MIND not being paying for that time, it doesn't matter. The company has to cover their ass- they would *still* be obligated to pay you for the time you spent on it outside of work. It's basically all just legality. It works this way everywhere. It's not an Apple thing.

Mind you, you could still do it on your own time. You just can't TELL them you did it on your own time. You'd have to say you did it while on the clock. It's pretty absurd stuff.

But that's your answer.

Really? :O

Wow I use to work in retail. In Australia this would only apply if the employee is working that day then stayed in the store at the end of the shift (effectively not clocking off). There is no way an employee will be paid in the Australian Retail sector by any company for doing work outside of their shift in their own time and unfortunately many Retailers request it (probably to avoid paying extra lol)
 
Who's writing Apple headlines?!

Is it just me, or does the headline from Apple make absolutely zero sense? I've reread it four times now and I still have no idea what this means:

"Career Experience: We want your ideas,
Winning on iPhone team, Cupertino"

I can gather from reading the rest of the post what the position is about; but what intern came up with that headline?!
 
I can tell you from personal experience the answer as to why this was specified. And you're right, it sticks out like a sore thumb. The reason is that if an employee were to write up or develop his/her ideas while not on the clock, the company would be obligated to PAY the employee for their time, which they have no desire to do.

The thing that's absurd about it is that, let's say I'm an employee and I want to focus on my job and write this up on my own time and I DON'T MIND not being paying for that time, it doesn't matter. The company has to cover their ass- they would *still* be obligated to pay you for the time you spent on it outside of work. It's basically all just legality. It works this way everywhere. It's not an Apple thing.

Mind you, you could still do it on your own time. You just can't TELL them you did it on your own time. You'd have to say you did it while on the clock. It's pretty absurd stuff.

But that's your answer.

You know what? I believe it. I never worked retail before, but my wife did (not at Apple, other big name stores) and she told me some "horror" stories about it. Reading the rules again, it does sound like fine print mumbo-jumbo.
 
I can tell you from personal experience the answer as to why this was specified. And you're right, it sticks out like a sore thumb. The reason is that if an employee were to write up or develop his/her ideas while not on the clock, the company would be obligated to PAY the employee for their time, which they have no desire to do.

The thing that's absurd about it is that, let's say I'm an employee and I want to focus on my job and write this up on my own time and I DON'T MIND not being paying for that time, it doesn't matter. The company has to cover their ass- they would *still* be obligated to pay you for the time you spent on it outside of work. It's basically all just legality. It works this way everywhere. It's not an Apple thing.

Mind you, you could still do it on your own time. You just can't TELL them you did it on your own time. You'd have to say you did it while on the clock. It's pretty absurd stuff.

But that's your answer.

I think you're half way there

If you come up with a great new idea for Apple to use in one of its upcoming products while "on the clock", this idea belongs to Apple.

If you come up with a great new idea for Apple to use in one of its upcoming products while "at home", you could sell this idea to Apple and ask for royalties.
 
This may not be a bad thing but the OP did not call it a bad "thing". He called it a bad "news". There is a difference. Somehow for many years Apple management was able to grow sales without asking retail employees about their ideas. The fact they felt a need to do it now seemingly indicates that iPhone sales are not doing well now.

How do you know Apple hasn't done this in the past? Just because it might not have found its way to a 9to5Mac type site doesn't mean it never existed. Also this seems to be about driving iPhone sales at their retail stores. I don't think it's any indication of overall iPhone sales. But I'm sure you already know that. ;)
 
Maybe I'm completely wrong, but doesn't this seem like bad news? This makes it sound like they are totally out of ideas at the top...

Not at all. They may have tons of ideas. But it never hurts to ask for more, especially when they aren't the ones that will have to deal with the aftermath on a minute by minute basis. Even if they don't use any of the employee ideas, that they asked for them gives off an air that they give a **** what the employees think, that they want to empower them

And who knows, they have been staring at the issue for so long that perhaps an employee with fresh eyes will think of something amazing
 
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Interesting strategy by Apple. Strangle people in a job without benefits, and give them a remote chance of recognition through this program. Everyone will try really hard, apple will get a couple great ideas, and all they have to do is fly 1 dude over to Cupertino for a week.

Schiller should have done this before he pulled the new Mac "Pro" out of his a$$.


:rolleyes:
:confused: Apple retail employees do receive benefits.
 
Maybe I'm completely wrong, but doesn't this seem like bad news? This makes it sound like they are totally out of ideas at the top...


Ideas can easily come from the guys in the trenches who interasct with customers all day long.

It does not strike me as any indicaton that "the top" is out of ideas. Other things make me think that Apple is out of good ideas, but not this.
 
there's only so much you can do to a phone.

I don't think this is about the phone itself but rather how it is marketed, how it is presented in stores. In particular how they can get folks to buy from Apple and not from the carriers etc

If I was them my idea would be simple. Make Apple the only sales channel. At least in areas where there are Apple Stores or Apple Online. They aren't required to let other folks sell their stuff so stop.

And given how much it seems like folks don't know what they are doing have better online materials, more workshops etc. they should have an iPhone or iPad workshop every day, if not one of each. Online should have their own sort of Lynda.com with videos showing folks step by step how to do things. And they should make phone support free for the limited warranty period. Plus it wouldn't hurt to do more than two accidents under Apple Care.
 
Can this crap please stop now? Please explain to us all how getting ideas from people closer to the customer is being "lost"? Steve wasn't a god. There's always those few users here who seem to think that he was never wrong.

Don't feed the troll....
 
In return for a $5 iTunes card, ask each departing customer "Why didn't you buy a new iPhone today?" (assuming they didn't just buy one).
 
Well I can give them some feedback. Don't waste money on adding a lot of new features. Just give the customer a little bit more each time so they will continue to come back and upgrade.

I bet tomorrow Apple could release a "new" iPhone 5 with the only difference being a new color and consumers would go wild over it and start lining up days before release. That's what is so great about the iPhone. No matter what people will never stop going crazy over it.

Said the person who doesn't own an iPhone (according to your signature).

Obviously, the iPhone isn't perfect... but neither is any other phone, is it?
 
make the checkout easier. as of now everywhere you buy a cell phone you have to wait around until they activate you in the carrier's system.

why not authorize your card for $700 and then only charge $199

Why not make you order it online first and you are merely picking it up in store.

Or switch them all back to full price unlocked and you go deal with activation yourself. With a mandate that even sprint etc has to switch to a sim based system and there's just one lineup of phones which can handle all carriers
 
Why don't they ask consumers also? I'm sure there's a thread on here somewhere with a list of features we'd like to see added to the iPhone. For example: A theme store - allow developers to submit purchasable themes for your iPhone that would change things like fonts, colors, icons, etc. Nothing too crazy but some level of customization. I don't want florescent candy colored icons on my home screen in iOS 7.
 
No.

What's wrong with asking the people that sell your product on a daily basis, how they can better improve this product and the selling process?

The smartest man is a man who knows when to ask for help.

So you're saying Apple is in need of help.
...still not sounding great, to me.
 
They don't listen to the outcry for larger screens from their customers why would they listen to their own employees.

Apple's not in the habit of listening to what the customers needs are. They tell you what you want and then you throw cash at them.

Seems like that's not working so well these days.

Forget the employees and ask the customers what would make Apple better.

Better yet, maybe they should spend some time in their own support online section and start there.
 
Every time I see "airplane mode" and "driving mode" on the same screen, I look for "boating mode"

Every time I see a nice pair, I look for "motor boating mode".

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And, sometimes the leaders are the ones who don't have the good ideas.

I've worked in too many places where the leaders think they're too good to ask the "lower" employees for ideas and those employees mistakenly believe that they aren't creative.

Wow, great. Yeah, that sound just about like the situation at Apple.
 
That's what is so great about the iPhone. No matter what people will never stop going crazy over it.


Well...some people. Fewer then before. But still some.

As apple's user base ages, I expect to see fewer "going crazy" over iterative changes to their mature products.
 
. The whole idea for dedicated Apps came from "jail breakers" who were disatisfied with mere web apps.

So the jail breakers claim. But several stories going back to the original days say that it isn't true. That Steve wanted an App Store but hasn't worked out how to do it without it being a security nightmare etc by the time the first iPhone was ready and the whole 'web apps' was always just a temp thing.

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They might not be lost, but this is something Steve would have NEVER done in a million years.

"You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new." -Steve Jobs

You don't know that. And this isn't asking customers it's asking employees. And not about a product but about policies and practices that they have to follow as part of their job.

Just like they might ask the employees that do in store tech support for ideas about how to make their jobs go smoother.
 
But this is Tim Cook's Apple now, seems to me he wants more employee involvement, and a less arrogant attitude from the top. It seems in line with his style, I see it as a good thing...

That's simply your own arrogance, to suggest Apple is arrogant.
 
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