Is WiFi assist behind it?I got this notification just as I was arguing over this. Do you think WiFi Assist looks appetizing to me right now?
(There is actually a 6GB allowance on the account, too. 3GB plan with an additional 3GB bonus for the 3 iPhone 6 devices purchased last year. Once the 3GB promotional is used, it starts using the 3GB plan allowance.)
I guess it depends on what you'd have an issue with--that you are getting switched over to cellular that you actually have a device that is performing something that you are expecting it to perform at that time, or that you are sitting on WiFi without a good connection and your device is either not doing what you are waiting for it to do or doing it very slowly with inconsistent results.This is a very bizarre "issue" to me. Yes it uses more data... That's the point. That it uses data because the wifi you're on is lousy.
I suspect it is because my personal usage (my line only) as of right now is 900 MB since 9/21. I had updated to the iOS 9 official release and I reset my cell usage on 9/21. On the day I got the iPhone 6s on 9/25, I checked my data usage before wiping the old phone and somehow I used 400 MB from 9/21 to 9/25. I saw WiFi assist switched on and immediately turned it off (Yes, I made sure it stayed off on the new phone). It has been off since then and I've only added an additional 500 MB from regular usage in 20 days, which was used in only 4 days when WiFi assist was on.Is WiFi assist behind it?
I understand your argument but the fact of the matter is it's the customers responsibility to educate themselves on the products' usage.You're still really missing the point. People don't know what they don't know. Are you suggesting that new owners should read their phone manual from beginning to end? And that they should know which features may or may not cost them money.
You're asking a lot. I don't disagree that people should be aware and know how to use their phones. But the reality is - many buy their phone and leave almost all of the settings "as is."
If you don't KNOW to look for this setting and what it means, then you're just blindly reading the manual from cover to cover with the chance you might notice it and know to do something about it.
I guess part of that question is did you see your WiFi connection drop and that you weren't on WiFi when you were expecting to be on it?I suspect it is because my personal usage (my line only) as of right now is 900 MB since 9/21. I had updated to the iOS 9 official release and I reset my cell usage on 9/21. On the day I got the iPhone 6s on 9/25, I checked my data usage before wiping the old phone and somehow I used 400 MB from 9/21 to 9/25. I saw WiFi assist switched on and immediately turned it off (Yes, I made sure it stayed off on the new phone). It has been off since then and I've only added an additional 500 MB from regular usage in 20 days, which was used in only 4 days when WiFi assist was on.
I'm not saying correlation means causation, but it's very likely that I used so much unknowingly at the beginning of the month because I was at home thinking I was on WiFi while actually using cellular because I was too far from my modem/router. All 400 MB was used on Safari which I do mainly at home. I'm on Twitter most of the time I'm not home but on my phone.
I didn't see a drop because I didn't pay attention to the signal. When I'm at home, I assume I'm on WiFi. That's why this feature being automatically enabled is a problem. It's not a rare habit to think you're on WiFi where your WiFi is and the feature being automatically enabled just exploits that habit.I guess part of that question is did you see your WiFi connection drop and that you weren't on WiFi when you were expecting to be on it?
Clearly that's not what I was talking about at all. I'm saying has it been shown that that particular functionality is what is responsible for data overages that some people are having. Just saying that it could be doesn't really mean that it is.
There are almost always (at least for the past few years) threads and articles of people running into more data usage after upgrading to a new iOS and/or getting a new device, yet this option didn't exist in previous years, so it couldn't have been responsible in those cases. What does common sense say about that? Thus the question, has it actually been shown that that's what's behind it all in these cases, or just simply theorized that it could be.
Oh okay...i misunderstood. Anyhow..to be perfectly honestly..no there hasn't been statically shown..or at least I haven't heard any. Unless you are asking for ...for example bend gate issues like 9 out of websites indicating that iPhones were bent by many people..then again..no.Clearly that's not what I was talking about at all. I'm saying has it been shown that that particular functionality is what is responsible for data overages that some people are having. Just saying that it could be doesn't really mean that it is.
There are almost always (at least for the past few years) threads and articles of people running into more data usage after upgrading to a new iOS and/or getting a new device, yet this option didn't exist in previous years, so it couldn't have been responsible in those cases. What does common sense say about that? Thus the question, has it actually been shown that that's what's behind it all in these cases, or just simply theorized that it could be.
You believe that assist wifi is the culprit, yes?I got this notification just as I was arguing over this. Do you think WiFi Assist looks appetizing to me right now?
(There is actually a 6GB allowance on the account, too. 3GB plan with an additional 3GB bonus for the 3 iPhone 6 devices purchased last year. Once the 3GB promotional is used, it starts using the 3GB plan allowance.)
I don't understand what's the big deal with this. If you don't want to use your phone data, then disable it all together, but of course if your mobile data is better than wi-fi, you should use it to improve your experience. In fact, before this feature existed I just disabled Wi-fi all together (I still do) when I went to the city because trying to login to those 'free' hotspots from cafes is a nightmare, never mind the speed they offer.
I'm at home or at work with WiFi but there are times when I don't get connected waking my device from sleep or when the connection drops, which is indicated by the change in the network showing me on cellular vs. WiFi. It's not something I expect or really happens often, but it can happen and I do notice it at times if it does happen. I would think similarly it would apply to this--it normally wouldn't happen where you normally have always had a good WiFi signal, but might happen in marginal area where you would see it drop the connection at times (as you might have even seen it at times before WiFi assist if the signal was bad enough). I guess something to keep an eye on to see if that's really behind increased data usage or not, given that there are other factors (like simply updating iOS) that could be in play.I didn't see a drop because I didn't pay attention to the signal. When I'm at home, I assume I'm on WiFi. That's why this feature being automatically enabled is a problem. It's not a rare habit to think you're on WiFi where your WiFi is and the feature being automatically enabled just exploits that habit.
Right, that functionality of changing to cellar data when WiFi signal drops out has been there, it's just that it's been adjusted to be more sensitive with WiFi assist now.Oh okay...i misunderstood. Anyhow..to be perfectly honestly..no there hasn't been statically shown..or at least I haven't heard any. Unless you are asking for ...for example bend gate issues like 9 out of websites indicating that iPhones were bent by many people..then again..no.
However, there are sites where people are talking about increase usage after the update to iOS 9..
http://www.valuewalk.com/2015/09/prevent-ios-9-wifi-assist-data/
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/apple-ios-9-wi-fi-assist-feature-could-devour-your-data/
However, there are sites that people mention about high usage that MAY lead to wi-fi assist as a culprit.
So what is Wifi assist? Well, isn't it when you're signal from wi-fi is weak..and replaces it with cellular data?
interesting...okay...so if i'm usually under 3 gb of data usage....what POSSIBLE reason(s) could cause to increase more than 10gb. Let me give you a background of mine: I'm pretty well off with under 3 gb of data usage...mainly because 1) i have wi-fi at home, 2) i use some apps that uses some data...but not much though in IOS 8.Right, that functionality of changing to cellar data when WiFi signal drops out has been there, it's just that it's been adjusted to be more sensitive with WiFi assist now.
There are mentions of higher data usage (and natural linking it to a new feature and thus potentially more press coverage because there's an actual new feature that it could potentially be linked to), but there have been mentions of higher data usage with iOS updates prior to iOS 9 (before WiFi assist) and/or new iOS devices that were out prior to iOS 9. For example:
http://www.ios8jailbreak.org/ios-8-causing-excessive-data-usage-here-is-how-to-fix.html
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/unusually-high-data-usage-on-ios-8.1799293/
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6542316
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/ios-7-eating-all-my-data-plan.1620724/
http://forums.imore.com/ios-7/270210-anyone-using-much-more-data-ios-7-a.html
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5364520
I got this notification just as I was arguing over this. Do you think WiFi Assist looks appetizing to me right now?
(There is actually a 6GB allowance on the account, too. 3GB plan with an additional 3GB bonus for the 3 iPhone 6 devices purchased last year. Once the 3GB promotional is used, it starts using the 3GB plan allowance.)
WiFi assist is certainly one of the top suspects when it comes to iOS 9, but it would need to be monitored to see if it's actually that or not. Given the examples of plenty of similar higher data usage reports with iOS 8 and 7 updates it seems that there have been things other than WiFi assist--which didn't exist in iOS in those versions--that could have been and could still be behind higher data usage that some people see after iOS updates and/or with new iOS devices.interesting...okay...so if i'm usually under 3 gb of data usage....what POSSIBLE reason(s) could cause to increase more than 10gb. Let me give you a background of mine: I'm pretty well off with under 3 gb of data usage...mainly because 1) i have wi-fi at home, 2) i use some apps that uses some data...but not much though in IOS 8.
Since i updated iOS 9, this happened.
It might be more than 1 factor then. I wonder if there is way to monitor wi-fi assist usage.WiFi assist is certainly one of the top suspects when it comes to iOS 9, but it would need to be monitored to see if it's actually that or not. Given the examples of plenty of similar higher data usage reports with iOS 8 and 7 updates it seems that there have been things other than WiFi assist--which didn't exist in iOS in those versions--that could have been and could still be behind higher data usage that some people see after iOS updates and/or with new iOS devices.
frankly, my wife doesn't read release note on any update.....It was in the release notes. If people can't read that's there issue
This comment would kill many users still using limited data plan, and yet there is no sign of implementing unlimited mobile data.I don't understand what's the big deal with this. If you don't want to use your phone data, then disable it all together, but of course if your mobile data is better than wi-fi, you should use it to improve your experience. In fact, before this feature existed I just disabled Wi-fi all together (I still do) when I went to the city because trying to login to those 'free' hotspots from cafes is a nightmare, never mind the speed they offer.
But it was on by default, eating up possibly over 800MB of my data.If you don't like it, just turn it off. People will whine about anything these days.
Can't believe it is in the BOTTOM of mobile data section. Looking at and scrolling through my prolong app list is a pain. So I didn't bother checking the bottom and didn't realise wifi assist is there.I disagree. Does the iPhone manual come with the phone. Or do you have to go looking for it?
Again - I'm all for the feature. I just think it should be turned OFF by default and/or during set up actively ask you if you want to turn it on.
Further - it needs to be relocated. Finding where it is isn't exactly intuitive.
And what about those iPhone 6 users, and all iPhone prior than iPhone 6s users? Where would their user manual contain such feature when it just doesn't exist? Plus, how many people would download iOS manual even if is provided for free? You say this is a user issue?It's in iBooks and that's documented in the quick guide that's supplied inside the box!
I suspect it is because my personal usage (my line only) as of right now is 900 MB since 9/21. I had updated to the iOS 9 official release and I reset my cell usage on 9/21. On the day I got the iPhone 6s on 9/25, I checked my data usage before wiping the old phone and somehow I used 400 MB from 9/21 to 9/25. I saw WiFi assist switched on and immediately turned it off (Yes, I made sure it stayed off on the new phone). It has been off since then and I've only added an additional 500 MB from regular usage in 20 days, which was used in only 4 days when WiFi assist was on.
I'm not saying correlation means causation, but it's very likely that I used so much unknowingly at the beginning of the month because I was at home thinking I was on WiFi while actually using cellular because I was too far from my modem/router. All 400 MB was used on Safari which I do mainly at home. I'm on Twitter most of the time I'm not home but on my phone.