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Apple Attracting Retail Workers With Improved Benefits
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I only have six and I had covid in January so mine's already depleted.
Edit: My company offers generous vacation time and sick time wasn't offered until this year. I didn't mean to sound ungrateful in original post. So while it's annoying my sick time is gone, I didn't have to use vacation. However, I was not able to get the Public Health Emergency Leave as a result.
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The vacation after 3 years is an interesting one. I was given 10 days on day 1 at the hospital. After working a few years, I now get 16 a year...but the point was my vacation time was available on my very first day. I was even encouraged to use it in my first year!
EDIT: A previous comment cleared that up, so disregard!
EDIT: A previous comment cleared that up, so disregard!
Agreed!
This is a good start and have no idea why it took them so long. Apple makes a LOT of money has a LOT of cash ... full benefits should be a standard. Waiting 3yrs to take vacation for full-time employees is ridiculous though, not an industry standard.
Apple employees have separate emergency paid sick time for COVID related illness and I don’t believe there is a specific limit.
My probation period at INACOM was 90 days, but 30 days later I was already permanent. And a year later I received a week of paid vacation.
Weak. Raise the starting pay to $25 p/h and offer 30 days PTO after six months.
There is a limit on sick days ?!? Wtf it’s not like you decide to be sick ? my coworker has been sick 2 months. PAID
Also, I would never take a Job with less than 30 vacation days, on top of our 14 bank holidays of course
Also, I would never take a Job with less than 30 vacation days, on top of our 14 bank holidays of course
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Wow. I’m from from Iceland and these “better benefits” are sad.
We get at least 2 days accumulated a month, equaling 24 days of payed vacation in the first year. This also applies to hourly workers.
On that first year, payed leave rights and sick leave minimums are calculated in a similar way. Meaning you also have 24 days sick leave that first year.
After a year, your sick leave is then minimum 2 months a year.
Unions are mandatory btw
We get at least 2 days accumulated a month, equaling 24 days of payed vacation in the first year. This also applies to hourly workers.
On that first year, payed leave rights and sick leave minimums are calculated in a similar way. Meaning you also have 24 days sick leave that first year.
After a year, your sick leave is then minimum 2 months a year.
Unions are mandatory btw
Vacation entitlements are often mandated by law in a given jurisdiction. It is my understanding that in the US the employer only needs to give 10 days vacation per year for a full time employer if any at all (I live in Canada). Saying that an employee, especially a part time one, is to be given 6 weeks of vacation is far beyond what most people get.
It has taken me 16 years of service to get to 5 weeks vacation. And that is well above average for my industry or Canada in general.
Agreed, this is borderline slavery from a European POV.
And that thing with limited sick leave, seriously?! So when you've used up your sick days, you're supposed to go to work spreading all the viruses you have within you, should you catch something? This is outrageous really.
it seems the article is not clearly written. There was never a policy that you only get vacation time after 5 years. Full time employees would accrue vacation time FASTER after 5 years. 9to5Macs article is clearer.
European labour laws are way better and in favour of the employee. Travelling 20 years ago with some Europeans those of us from North America had a hard time believing how much better the employee is treated in North America.
I wish more employers understood that a rested employee is a more productive employee.
Yeah... Here it's always a rush to judgment assuming the worst possible scenario. Based on incomplete information and zero facts. All to have a good rag on how awful Apple is. And to feel good.
The new normal on social media.
This is correct. This is the minimum Apple is offering now. Many states require more sick PTO and vacation time with accrual differences.
People always forget that the US is a combination of states that all have their own laws, some better than others, with Federal laws and company rules as a minimum requirement. It can be confusing for sure.
However, front line employees should absolutely be paid more and have better benefits than what we typically do in the US. They all work hard and have to deal with the worst people in society.
in Retail? Well as we've seen from other posters, they get vacation time immediately, increased vacation after 3 years not five. Misinformation runs amok
Who actually finds these "terms" attractive?
We have so far to go as a society when this is all a company like Apple is willing to do for their front line folks.
We have so far to go as a society when this is all a company like Apple is willing to do for their front line folks.
I only get 10 sick days a year...and that's in a freaking hospital! Needless to say, I could blow through that in one fell swoop right now! But then again, covid positive nurses are allowed to work now, so maybe not ?
10 sick days, 5 personal days, 16 vacation days. That's what I get. (That's up from 8, 3, and 10 respectively from when I started).
I know everyone is commenting on this. Having to wait 3 years for vacation time, as a full time employee is nuts. I'm on my 25th year at my company. Got 3 weeks right off the bat. At 10 years, I got a 4th week. At 25, we get a 5th week.
I'm a programmer, and I know we have it better than even other employees at my company. We have a non-programmer, get trained to be a programmer last year. He said that at his old position, he only got a week or two of vacation per year. Ouchie!!
I'm a programmer, and I know we have it better than even other employees at my company. We have a non-programmer, get trained to be a programmer last year. He said that at his old position, he only got a week or two of vacation per year. Ouchie!!
My US employer does not pay that well but they offer a really nice amount of paid vacation and sick leave for my area. I get 16 hours of vacation a month and 12 hours of sick a month. The vacation does max out at 280 but the sick leave does not and when you retire, the sick hours that you banked equal out to time on the job. Vacation is paid out as hours worked. They actively encourage people to use vacation time.
How many?
I can't seem to find anything other than a mention of 6 for part time folks
Nothing better than working for the government, you get as much PTO as you want. Get off for all holidays including national pancake day and talk like a pirate day and you don't have to work hard.
Offering vacation to part time is a nice incentive, though I imagine there's strings attached somehow.
I get 10 days a year, with additional vacation after certain milestones I do not recall at the moment. Vacation doesn't bank, sadly, so I have to use it at some point before the year is over. Still not sure how sick time works since I've never had to use it.
I get 10 days a year, with additional vacation after certain milestones I do not recall at the moment. Vacation doesn't bank, sadly, so I have to use it at some point before the year is over. Still not sure how sick time works since I've never had to use it.
Right? 5 years before you get vacation? I've run my own business for over 20 years and take off when I want, but that can't be normal to have to work somewhere 5 years before you get vacation?!
Working for Apple sounds more like working in a sweat shop.
It's before you get "more" vacation days per year
The Bloomberg article doesn't seem to spell out what a full time worker starts with though.
(that said -- all of it is still the usual Neo-liberal overly indexed towards MegaCorp horror show. Shame on Apple.)