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Yeah, we know. Nobody likes China. The question is whether Trump actually beat them.

He’s ruining China. China has had the worst economic growth in decades, their supply chain is leaving, China is bleeding jobs.

Meanwhile in the US it’s the complete opposite. I’d say we’re winning. Especially if we nail down a trade deal (this is phase 1)
 
No point arguing with them to be honest, they won’t change their opinions no matter what Trump does. I find it funny they are trying to blame trump for the slowing global economy, because that only started happening when Trump got into office. Meanwhile the US economy is doing just fine.
It is sad. These people want him to fail even though what he is doing benefits them. Support your president and hope he does a good job even if you didn't vote for him.
 
I don't see how China threatens the USA way of life seriously. We just shouldn't do business with such an incompatible country, plus the government is tyrannical to its people.
Already we see it in censorship of media and free speech in the US and other countries. Their two-faced approach to the environment certainly hurts us all (eg why the hell did they start making CFCs again? Why are they building MORE coal power plants?). More serious is their extremely aggressive expansion into sovereign territory of neighbors. This affects shipping, fishing, and international stability. Don’t forget how they have slowly undermined foreign business through a steady program of theft and forced technology transfer. In this way their businesses have been undermining and displacing the very companies that had invested in the Chinese market. There can be no doubt about how this damages the fabric of our society. China‘s communist party plays the long game. Over time, these sorts of things all add up to a steady erosion of the Western way of life. As China gains clout, they have only grown more egregious. Left unchecked, it is only a matter of time until they are unstoppable.
 
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It is sad. These people want him to fail even though what he is doing benefits them. Support your president and hope he does a good job even if you didn't vote for him.
The push for non-clean energy is something to be turned off about, even for those it doesn't affect immediately.
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Already we see it in censorship of media and free speech in the US and other countries. More serious is their extremely aggressive expansion into sovereign territory of neighbors. This affects shipping, fishing, and international stability. Don’t forget how they have slowly undermined foreign business through a steady program of theft and forced technology transfer. In this way their businesses have been undermining and displacing the very companies that had invested in the Chinese market. There can be no doubt about how this damages the fabric of our society. China‘s communist party plays the long game. Over time, these sorts of things all add up to a steady erosion of the Western way of life. As China gains clout, they have only grown more egregious.
The censorship is a good point and something I forgot about. I don't think any US company can afford to appear to pick China over the US, but they'll figure out sneaky ways to do it.
 
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As a Canadian Trump is amazing. He just got china, Mexico, and Canada deals all done and has done more in 3 years than anyone in office.
he’s doing a really good job... nice change given no politician ever doesn’t anything.

He reupped NAFTA, and the Dems got a better deal than Trump wanted. Yeah. He's a brash, ignorant putz. He ruined out status with the Pacific Rim and gave China a leg up. Real smart. A total moron at trade deals.
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https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/a...ump-s-u-s-china-deal-wasn-t-worth-a-trade-war

After almost two years of tariffs, counter-tariffs, meetings, bad-tempered tweets, and backroom maneuverings, we may finally be on the brink of the first part of a hoped-for trade deal between the U.S. and China. It wasn’t worth it.

President Donald Trump has signed off on an agreement to de-escalate his conflict with Beijing, people familiar with the matter told Bloomberg News. Discussions will focus on the U.S. reducing tariff rates on Chinese imports by as much as half and delaying pending ones, while Beijing will agree to purchase U.S. farm products and do more on intellectual-property theft, officials said.

The S&P 500 index closed up 0.9% at a record high on the news. Naturally, it’s a relief when a nation decides to stop punching itself in the face; how much better if it hadn’t started, though.

From what we can see, there is nothing in this tentative deal that wouldn’t have existed in the absence of the past two years of wrangling. Intellectual property reform has been a long-standing project for President Xi Jinping. China’s first dedicated IP courts were established back in 2014 and have generally dealt fairly with non-Chinese litigants.

This is not a final trade deal folks. Bloomberg didn't say it's done, but they were clear that it's a waste of 2 years.
 
It's great to hear how all that smooching between those two guys paid off. It appears the holidays for Apple shareholders are going to be happy, after all.
 
As if you expect the Amazon owned Washington post to be impartial. post has put out dozens of false stories before.

Trump is a master deal maker. He’s produced results for this economy and keeps his promises. More jobs, record stocks, record unemployment, renegotiated trade deals. Even Pelosi called trumps USMCA unquestionably better than NAFTA. You can’t beat him, honestly.

Even Tim is smart enough to see past the anti-trump hate. I’m sure he’s tired of China trying to steal intellectual property - which is a huge part of the trade deal with China.

Did anyone brag about record stock prices before Trump started doing it? Markets generally go up, that’s why they exist, so record prices are normal. Under Trump, stocks are actually performing worse than under Obama or Clinton...

https://www.macrotrends.net/2481/stock-market-performance-by-president
 
If he can talk Tim into putting the 3.5mm audio jack back in my iPhone he's got my vote. ;)

I will vote for whoever can get me a headphone jack in a new iPhone. Bluetooth sucks, and I don't want to go to dongle hell to use a normal set of headphones.
 
You do realize this is essentially a purchase and sale agreement that does nothing to achieve Trump's initial goals of IP protection and shrinking the trade deficit? It basically undid a little of the damage that the trade war had done to American farmers.
And he's been spending billions essentially putting the farmers on welfare (you know, that thing he rails against) - paying them aid to offset the lost sales caused by the trade war he started. Meanwhile, the foreign companies/markets that were buying from the US farmers aren't going to wait around, they're going to make deals with farmers in other nations to get what they need. Once the US farmers are back in the market, they will find the market has moved on and has less need for their products. Wasn't that a great win for the US?
 
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I love this president.

He’s basically renegotiated trade deals with China, Canada, Mexico, Japan, EU, and UK. No wonder the economy is soaring.

All the people saying that Tariffs were wrong, and yet China finally caved. Lmao.

Best part as it has had zero effect of the consumer

Where do you get your information? Honestly. What led you to all of those conclusions?

This, from an actual news article published by reporters who know what they’re talking about in the NYT (i.e. not something pulled from an opinion piece presented by TV personalities on a cable pundit platform posing as a “news“
channel):

”The deal under consideration would not resolve all of Mr. Trump’s issues with China. That includes China’s history of coercing technology away from American firms, as well as industrial policies that economists say have helped China dominate global industries like steel and solar panels and put American companies out of business.”

And,

“On the Chinese side, Thursday’s agreement appears to be a big victory for the more nationalistic wing of the Chinese government, which has argued consistently that the Trump administration will back down a considerable extent on tariffs if Beijing stands firm.”

***These two are the authors:

Ana Swanson is a trade reporter in the Washington bureau. She previously worked at The Washington Post, where she covered trade, the Federal Reserve and the economy.

Alan Rappeport is an economic policy reporter, based in Washington. He covers the Treasury Department and writes about taxes, trade and fiscal matters in the era of President Trump. He previously worked for The Financial Times and The Economist.
 
Trump got us into this tariff mess, I’m curious to see if we ultimately end up in a better or worse position for it.

I feel especially bad for all the US farmers who have lost relationships with Chinese buyers over the tariffs.

No, he didn't. You need to educate yourself on the unfair trading that was going on between the majority of imports into china, not just the soy. He's the only person that could take this to the end. Any other 'career politician' would never have done this. And it needed to be done, judgement on the deal when all facts are out.
 
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Thank god for Trump. He’s a total dick who has no respect for anything (except for his own self interests) but occasionally does a couple things that are vaguely worthwhile. WHAT AN AMAZING PRESIDENT! 🧐
I'm good with him on the new animal cruelty law alone.
 
Coming from someone who buys the cheaper/est new iPhone every 2-3 years, I’d happily pay 50% more if timPhones were manufactured in the USA.

The trouble is that, at least right now, it's impossible to build these phones in the U.S. We simply don't have the supply chain infrastructure. That's the real long term issue. As you noted, we've traded low prices for lost abilities. With every year that passes, they become more powerful. Hopefully the uncertainty that these tariffs create will bring at least a start of manufacturing away from China.
 
LOL. Your talking utter crap:

There is no UK / US trade deal, and won't be until the UK leaves the EU.
EU / US talks for a trade deal, TTIP, is still ongoing.

I love this president.

He’s basically renegotiated trade deals with China, Canada, Mexico, Japan, EU, and UK. No wonder the economy is soaring.
 
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And he's been spending billions essentially putting the farmers on welfare (you know, that thing he rails against) - paying them aid to offset the lost sales caused by the trade war he started. Meanwhile, the foreign companies/markets that were buying from the US farmers aren't going to wait around, they're going to make deals with farmers in other nations to get what they need. Once the US farmers are back in the market, they will find the market has moved on and has less need for their products. Wasn't that a great win for the US?
If China is buying soybeans from nation “x”, whoever was buying soybeans from nation “x” is probably now buying soybeans from the US. It works both ways.
 
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Trump got us into this tariff mess, I’m curious to see if we ultimately end up in a better or worse position for it.

I feel especially bad for all the US farmers who have lost relationships with Chinese buyers over the tariffs.

He didn’t get us in this mess, but rather trying to get us out of the mess of getting screwed all the time. God bless someone trying to do something beneficial rather than just spin wheels
 
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No deal has been signed. Trump is not only incompetent he is a criminal and a traitor.
I would comment on this but I'll probably just get banned again.

Still awaiting a mod to confirm whether I'm allowed to have an opinion in Political News or is it limited to PRSI only. So far I only got a warning stating not to talk about them.
 
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Dumbest comment ever.
Really? So if EU buys soybeans from Brazil but now China starts buying Brazilian soybeans (because tariffs make US soybeans too expensive for China), where does the EU now buy soybeans? That’s right, the US.
 
stock market is going to skyrocket tomorrow

Appears that is not the case so far

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