Hmmmm. If you read the article above...
The real question is: Would Apple have had better press if they would have tried that from the beginning without just pulling everything?
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Apple Backpedals, Puts "All Eligible Products" Back on EPEAT Environmental Registry
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Hmmmm. If you read the article above...
The real question is: Would Apple have had better press if they would have tried that from the beginning without just pulling everything?
Bummer. I thought this might be the kick Apple needs to realize that putting proprietary hardware in their laptops is a big middle finger to its customers.
I guess they convinced EPEAT to revise their requirements.
I guess they convinced EPEAT to revise their requirements.
some people on this forum seriously need to pull their heads out of Apple's ass. It borders on delusional fanaticism! If your worshipping a company you've clearly got some serious issues and are incapable of appreciating apple's products for what they are! simply great products.
I have a lot of Apple stuff in my house and I buy them for one reason and one reason only. because they are genuinely the best products on the market. you shouldn't buy any product out of blind loyalty. Its up to apple to keep there kit at the top of the chain. If it starts falling and gets over taken I shan't be hanging around. I almost left once before after the travesty of the terribly flimsy plastic MacBooks that came out around 2006. The quality of the plastic was shoddy at best and I had two cases replaced (I didn't treat them rough by any standard). Apples after-care may have been second to none I expect build quality of a near £1000 laptop. These is premium priced kit, not a pile-em-high sell-em-cheap hp. I really was ready to buy one of the better built Sony's but luckily apple moved on and brought out the aluminium style MBP which are a million miles away in build quality and the best build I know of!
Good to see Apple back on the EPEAT. I'm surprised the MBPr is on there? I thought the glued in battery precluded it from getting approval? or has it just received a lower grade? Glueing in the battery is on face value a stupid idea. Though I don't know the product well enough to say if they've had to use glue to get it in there and prevent using other fixing plates (though I doubt it really had no other option that to glue it)
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See that surprises me, as Apple tends to not have the greatest track record in the corporate sector, but they they do stuff like this. It comes off as very bipolar re:Apple in the enterprise.
I believe Apple agreed to install a water bottle filler port on every unit sold to SF.
As was pointed out in the previous thread on this subject, Apple was directly involved in developing the current standards, and is presently helping EPEAT draft the new ones. They're not just some arbitrary government standards. Exercise your critical thinking skills.
It's great that Mr. Mansfield reversed course. It shows humility and wisdom on his part. I don't think the initial removal of products from EPEAT would have stopped the average consumer from buying their next Mac, but this reversal will encourage that purchase.
Perhaps Apple have behind the scenes and got fed up with EPEAT buggering around. I guess this highlighted EPEATS reluctance to update their standards in line with the pace of modern technology.
I bet neo-cons and libertarians are happy, here's "the free market correcting itself".... after a whole lot of backlash.
This only goes to show that regulations are needed in the so-called "free market" in the first place. Though, I do have to admit that regulatory bodies do need to do a much better job at keeping up with technology. Therefore, more funding (in the form of tax dollars) is needed for these departments instead of going towards the war machine or conservative witch hunts.
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This only goes to show that regulations are needed in the so-called "free market" in the first place. Though, I do have to admit that regulatory bodies do need to do a much better job at keeping up with technology. Therefore, more funding (in the form of tax dollars) is needed for these departments instead of going towards the war machine or conservative witch hunts.
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*Full disclosure, I make money on the side by trading stocks and I am currently holding a long position in AAPL.
They don't . Instead of being "gold certified" they will probably be silver certified. This gives leeway to the government to purchase Macs.
It's possible that this was Apple using their weight to change the standards.
I think Macrumors.com deserves a lot of credit here. You guys acted like true journalists and brought this issue to the public's attention and the world is a better place because of it. Thanks!
I'm not trying to be cynical here, but how does this make the world a better place? Apple's submission of products to the EPEAT has no bearing whatsoever on the product's environmental impact, and Apple would be silly to design a product based on interpreted environmental compliance by a third-party agency's particular standards.
Apple should do exactly what they've been doing: build products while being environmentally conscious and responsible.
That is what I suspect also. I knew it would not be long before Apple returned its products the list, EPEAT announced it would update its requirements, or both!
No one knows for a fact that Apple is helping write the new EPEAT standards. I don't want to jump to that conclusion. I would rather go with the information that we know, and that is that Apple withdrew because the EPEAT standards were outdated in the eyes of Apple.
If they help draft new rules, great.
As far as Mr. Mansfield's reversal-they should have held their course. Withdraw, and build machines that not only meet, but exceed all the standards. It's not a bad thing to be a stubborn ass sometimes and hold your ground.
Apple fumbled this one. If it's this easy for them to reverse course they obviously didn't think it through well enough in the first place. But to have a spokesperson publicly defend the decision only to reverse course a day or two later is amateur hour.
Really ? Wow. I thought this organization had that "easy to take apart " part that disqualified the rMBP.
I wonder whether Apple were doing this backstage, before EPEAT decided to post it on their news blog and make the whole thing public.
I bet there were a lot of angry phone calls back and forth. Looks like a big game of bluff and call.
maybe Apple agreed to release their method for servicing the rMBP so that now they are "common" tools