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What an awful message for Indonesia to be sending to the world.
Hard disagree. I see this as an example of how Apple could seize an opportunity to work with Indonesia and lessen dependency on china. Country is practically begging them. More countries ought to do this, as it stands now the global system weakens powers and principalities of the local governments
 
In related news, iPhone 16 sales in nearby countries increase as do gray-market sales of the iPhone 16 in Indonesia. Protectionism like this will only hurt Indonesian consumers.
Indonesia is way ahead of you. Apparently iPhone 16 models are blocked from local networks based on IMEI. Good luck spoofing your IMEI without rooting iOS.
 
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Wow, a rather political issue that's a classic protectionist action with potentially negative outcomes.

How can ANY phone manufacturer fulfill the 40% requirement?!?
Especially if every country you operate in wants the same percentage of "domestic investment”. Ah, the trials and tribulations of the global economy. Not so global is it, if it ever was.
 
A country where locals tell you about bribes to pay fines from police, counterfeit goods are openly sold in shops and markets...

very few locals can afford Apple prices. plenty of knock off earphones.
any local who can afford an iPhone can travel to Singapore and pick one up.
 
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Indonesia is way ahead of you. Apparently iPhone 16 models are blocked from local networks based on IMEI. Good luck spoofing your IMEI without rooting iOS.

Well, that’s what happens when your country has no comparative advantage in any industry and must resort to a government-run protection racket and extortion.
 
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If it's "Indonesia First", where's the 100% tariffs on imported iPhones? That will certainly help their economy (according to someone we all know).
 
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Indonesia is way ahead of you. Apparently iPhone 16 models are blocked from local networks based on IMEI. Good luck spoofing your IMEI without rooting iOS.
Where did you get this info? None of the articles I read say that. They do say that phones that have come into the country are fine, as long as they are not resold.
 
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Well, that’s what happens when your country has no comparative advantage in any industry and must resort to a government-run protection racket and extortion.
If it brings some well-paying jobs to Indonesia, is it a bad policy?
 
A country where locals tell you about bribes to pay fines from police, counterfeit goods are openly sold in shops and markets...

very few locals can afford Apple prices. plenty of knock off earphones.
any local who can afford an iPhone can travel to Singapore and pick one up.
Not as simple as going to Singapore and pick one up. If they did, the iPhone is as good as brick when it lands in Indonesia. You can't use Indonesia network without first whitelisting the IMEI in the national system.
 
Where did you get this info? None of the articles I read say that. They do say that phones that have come into the country are fine, as long as they are not resold.
Check out the Wikipedia article I posted earlier and also the following excerpt:

The registration of the International Mobile Equipment Identity (IMEI) for personal items and those sent via post is handled by the Directorate General of Customs and Excise. (Source).
TLDR: To use a phone with a local provider, apparently you have to register the phones IMEI. If someone tried to import a large number of iPhones illegally, it would pretty quickly be noticed by Indonesian authorities.
 
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I assume the US government will retaliate by banning certain Indonesian products, right? Trade wars are never unilateral.
 
Where did you get this info? None of the articles I read say that. They do say that phones that have come into the country are fine, as long as they are not resold.

The nation's plan was hatched in 2019 in response to the scourge of black-market handhelds imported into Indonesia by folks with little interest in paying import taxes or whether customers would enjoy good network connections. The presence of black market phones also threatened local manufacturers.

Indonesia therefore decided no cellphone could touch local networks if the unique International Mobile Equipment Identity number (IMEI) baked into every handset wasn't registered with the government. It's since established a database to list IMEIs, called the centralized equipment identity register (CEIR). If a device isn't listed in CEIR it's a virtual brick right out of the box if used in Indonesia.




If you are planning to travel to Indonesia for more than 90 days, you will need to pay close attention to your phone's IMEI registration to avoid an unexpected disconnection from your cell phone’s network provider.

Made compulsory in 2020 by the Indonesian government, a device purchased outside of Indonesia can be used for the first 90 days inside the country, after which it will blocked until taxes have been paid on the imported device. The IMEI number (a unique number for each device) is used to track devices and block stolen or illegally imported phones at the mobile network operator level.
 
If it brings some well-paying jobs to Indonesia, is it a bad policy?
Yes, it is bad policy. It won’t significantly alter the lives of any but a few who are well-connected to the Indonesian government. Indonesia would be better served to develop an economic advantage than to pass laws hoping someone else gives them free money.
 
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It seems like Apple spends more time in court and a significant amount of money resolving these kinds of issues. Maybe that’s why there’s so little focus on innovation and software refinement. ⚖️
Lawyers don't work on products.
 
At this rate all international port cities will be manufacturing hubs where 1000 separate parts are shipped in and assembled in-country. Maybe every weird shaped micro screw will just be made in the factory too, to satisfy local manufacturing rules.

ta-da, made in Indonesia/India/Brazil etc.
 
Hard disagree. I see this as an example of how Apple could seize an opportunity to work with Indonesia and lessen dependency on china. Country is practically begging them. More countries ought to do this, as it stands now the global system weakens powers and principalities of the local governments
Yeah, its complicated. Capitalism is indeed a flawed system and it encourages monopolies which can become bigger than nation states. States regulate to rein in the abusive bits of capitalism they don't like, sometimes with good reason, sometimes to score political points. It is what it is, but forcing a company which manufactures elsewhere to pay up skews the system even further, and everyone loses. It just becomes a tariff, and tariffs fail everyone. So if more countries do it, more mess will result. Consumers will pay more, and sellers will avoid the country altogether or play one country off against another for freebies until a third country has a tantrum and ratchets things up even further.
 
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