Apple Banned From Selling iPhone 16 Models in Indonesia

[I7guy]

Tariffs just hurt the end user. The goal is to get apple to comply to help the economy.

Or the end user will do without the iPhone if the cost to comply is more than the revenue and hence hurt the economy as less phones gets sold. Or drive up the price of the second hand market.

 

[I7guy]

If what the government want to achieve is more FDI from Apple, a ban seems more effective. A ban hurts Apple pretty directly. Higher tariffs on the other hand would, as you mentioned, just drive up prices for consumers.

Not every country can get away with such a policy. But it seems Indonesia is just big enough to make it work.

Is it possible apple can turn this around like a top? I guess apple could pledge x billions of dollars and the ban would be lifted. But that would seem to be blood money.

 

[MilaM]

I guess apple could pledge x billions of dollars and the ban would be lifted. But that would seem to be blood money.

Not sure why you use such drastic words to describe something that other countries are also doing. The US has very similar policies when it comes to cars, batteries, photovoltaics and probably many other sectors. Why is it blood money, when a developing economy tries to apply the same policy?

 

[I7guy]

Not sure why you use such drastic words to describe something that other countries are also doing. The US has very similar policies when it comes to cars, batteries, photovoltaics and probably many other sectors. Why is it blood money, when a developing economy tries to apply the same policy?

This feels like extortion. Why not ban all apple devices? Why just the iPhone 16? Did apple get prior notice? Or was this crafted out of thin air?

 

[vantelimus]

Indonesia has now banned Google phones also. Funny that they haven’t banned phones from Chinese companies, even though both Google and Apple phones are manufactured in China. Perhaps they know that extortion doesn’t work against the Chinese because the Chinese will ruin them if they try.

Indonesia bans sales of Google phones days after blocking Apple's iPhone 16 — Reuters

Indonesia said it has banned sales of smartphones made by Alphabet's (GOOGL.O) Google due to rules requiring the use of locally manufactured components, days after blocking sales of tech giant Apple's (AAPL.O) iPhone 16 for the same reason.

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[webkit]

Indonesia has now banned Google phones also. Funny that they haven’t banned phones from Chinese companies, even though both Google and Apple phones are manufactured in China. Perhaps they know that extortion doesn’t work against the Chinese because the Chinese will ruin them if they try.

Indonesia bans sales of Google phones days after blocking Apple's iPhone 16 — Reuters

Indonesia said it has banned sales of smartphones made by Alphabet's (GOOGL.O) Google due to rules requiring the use of locally manufactured components, days after blocking sales of tech giant Apple's (AAPL.O) iPhone 16 for the same reason.

stocks.apple.com

They haven't banned Samsung phones either. Is it not because these various Samsung, Xiaomi, etc. phones meet the "40% local content" requirements?

 

[I7guy]

They haven't banned Samsung phones either. Is it not because these various Samsung, Xiaomi, etc. phones meet the "40% local content" requirements?

Don’t think that info is known unless you have a citation.

 

[alchemistmuffin]

Apple has been blocked from selling iPhone 16 models in Indonesia after it failed to meet the country's domestic investment requirements

I can tell you the orange haired president will impose tariffs or sanctions as retaliation for this.

 

[Chuckeee]

I can tell you the orange haired president will impose tariffs or sanctions as retaliation for this.

What vital Indonesian exports do think will be impacted? Only 9% of Indonesian exports go to the US, the bulk of Indonesian exports (25%) go to China.

Indonesia’s Top Exports 2024

Indonesia’s top exports in 2024 a searchable database of 100 most valuable Indonesian exported goods plus trade balances by major products

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[vantelimus]

What vital Indonesian exports do think will be impacted? Only 9% of Indonesian exports go to the US, the bulk of Indonesian exports (25%) go to China.

Indonesia’s Top Exports 2024

Indonesia’s top exports in 2024 a searchable database of 100 most valuable Indonesian exported goods plus trade balances by major products

www.worldstopexports.com

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