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A day after the first 13 and 15-inch MacBook Pros with Touch Bars began preparing for shipment to customers, Apple and LG's UltraFine 4K Display has begun shipping. Shipments are expected to arrive next week, with one MacRumors forum member noting November 15 as their delivery date.

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The 21.5-inch UltraFine 4K Display went up for pre-order at the same time as the new MacBook Pro with Touch Bar. At the time, deliveries were estimated to arrive on November 15 at the earliest. Current delivery estimates are quoted at 5 to 6 weeks.

Apple debuted the UltraFine Display at its MacBook Pro event last month in 4K and 5K variations. While the 4K display has been available for pre-order since the event, the 5K display is not yet available. The Cupertino company said it partnered with LG to develop the displays specifically for the new MacBook Pro, with Apple making sure that the displays are optimized for its products. Shortly after announcing the displays, Apple confirmed it was out of the standalone display business.

The 13-inch MacBook Pro with Touch Bar can power either one 5K UltraFine display or two 4K UltraFine displays, while the 15-inch MacBook Pro with Touch Bar can power either two 5K displays or four 4K displays. Additionally, both displays include three downstream USB-C ports and can charge a MacBook Pro over the same cable that carries the video and data signals.

In early November, Apple dropped the prices of both displays in an effort to smooth the transition for new MacBook Pro owners. The move was combined with price drops for all of Apple's USB-C adapters. The 27-inch 5K UltraFine display is now $974, a $325 price cut from the original price of $1,299. The 4K UltraFine display is now $524, a $175 price cut from the original price of $699. The lowered prices are only available until the end of the year.

Article Link: Apple Begins Shipping LG UltraFine 4K Displays
 

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Is it the right business decision? Probably. Is it the right Apple decision? No. The Apple you know is over. They cannot keep thriving and producing double digit growth from where they stand if they try to grow an even larger base of people who pay $1700 for a display. That would be like Ferrari hoping to be Ford.

The current Apple leaders want the company to be Ford. Their focus is gone. They're in a game of me-too technocracy. So there you are.
 

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Mine's supposed to be coming on Monday. I'll post my impressions in the thread in Mac accessories.

As I state there, I will most likely return it (I had planned to cancel it, and then all of a sudden it shipped...wasn't supposed to ship til December 12!) but I'll be able to confirm what it can't do (displayport daisychaining, connect to a PC with a displayport--USB C cable, etc.) At least I have a while with Apple's holiday return period!
 
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What does it mean when Apple says they are "out of the standalone display business" Not sure what that means because didn't they just partner with LG to offer UltraFine 4K displays? Can someone elaborate what they mean by that? Thanks

It means they aren't making them and supporting them, like they were previously, with their own cases. Apple just told LG what to throw in it and gave them what they needed to provide full macOS integration.
 
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Is it the right business decision? Probably. Is it the right Apple decision? No. The Apple you know is over. They cannot keep thriving and producing double digit growth from where they stand if they try to grow an even larger base of people who pay $1700 for a display. That would be like Ferrari hoping to be Ford.

The current Apple leaders want the company to be Ford. Their focus is gone. They're in a game of me-too technocracy. So there you are.

You're so wrong it almost hurts. These monitors are basically a steal, and that's a very good thing, any way you slice it.

The Apple we know is alive and kicking, just read the first *real* impressions from real pros about the new MBPs: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/thomas-grove-carter/one-professionals-look-at_b_12894856.html
 
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What does it mean when Apple says they are "out of the standalone display business" Not sure what that means because didn't they just partner with LG to offer UltraFine 4K displays? Can someone elaborate what they mean by that? Thanks
There is little margin in displays. So Apple will just partner with LG and maybe others to let them do the legwork. We are getting these monitors for half what Apple wanted for the old Thunderbolt Display.
 

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There is little margin in displays. So Apple will just partner with LG and maybe others to let them do the legwork. We are getting these monitors for half what Apple wanted for the old Thunderbolt Display.
yep and you can not seem to convince people that the sky is not falling and the they are not interested in the mac line cause they do not make a display any more. I think they took a real hard look at it and said it will cost us X to make a new display and buy the guts of this display the will ship any way. They could have marked it up for the sheep but they mad the bold choice to walk away from the market and let some one else have the sales and not treat there customers like sheep. I know they mark the rest of it up and its still sheep this and sheep that. I can however say the left the display market and the power market. The two large pain points
 
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I really want to buy the 5k as I love the deep integration, color gamut, and simple cables.

But this is so ugly. And the details are wrong. The forehead. The rear Power plus is in odd location off-center so cable drops down side versus behind the support pole. The thick tick support tube and ugly base. And the cheap plastic. So much for caring about the environment.

Clearly this deal was last minute by Apple and rushed by LG. It's why there are no pre-orders. it's still in the labs. I just hope there aren't quality issues due to the rush.

Apple needs to remember pros care about the aesthetic of their environment. They should have insisted on a better case, or even better, had Jon's team design something.

My dream is LG fixes the case and we see a new form factor before launch. I'll buy two if they clean up the form factor.
 

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I wonder if two of those can be driven from the two TB Ports on a 2015 model?
 

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I love it how these displays offer so many legacy ports so you don't need to buy a heap of extra dongles.
What, they only give you more USB-C ports? Oh....


I had the same thought at the keynote. If I was at apple, I'd release an apple display with legacy ports. It would drive sales of the display, lessen the dongle backlash, and was a customer friendly option for pros. Sure, it would slow adoption of USB-c, but it's a bridge for pros, and wouldn't slow down mass market if you sold the display for 1500 bucks.

Plus, who wants to plug their beautiful, now more expensive MacBook Pro into this fugly display. It doesn't match, and the display is ugly as sin.

I hate when people say, Steve wouldn't have done this. Steve made lots of mistakes.

But this is a safe bet. Steve would have made LG come up with a better case to pair with Jony's design. Tim's a good guy, clearly, but he is the Steve Balmer of Apple.
 

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Is it the right business decision? Probably. Is it the right Apple decision? No. The Apple you know is over. They cannot keep thriving and producing double digit growth from where they stand if they try to grow an even larger base of people who pay $1700 for a display. That would be like Ferrari hoping to be Ford.

The current Apple leaders want the company to be Ford. Their focus is gone. They're in a game of me-too technocracy. So there you are.

Wow, so melodramatic.
 
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Cougarcat

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With such cutting edge tech, such as "USB 2, 480 Mbps", serving you well since April, 2000.

What a joke.

It's because the 4K stream limits the output of the ports. You see this same limitation in Caldigit's USB C dock.

Now, you may argue that they should have gone thunderbolt 3 like the 5K for $100 more, but this way it's compatible with the rMB.

I hate when people say, Steve wouldn't have done this. Steve made lots of mistakes.

But this is a safe bet. Steve would have made LG come up with a better case to pair with Jony's design.

Just as Steve made Motorola come up with a killer design for their iTunes phone. Or those iPods with the beautiful HP logo on them.
 
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