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I'd not want to replace my $2000 high end speakers in case my Airport Express fails.

What kind of Airplay adapter are you referring to, can you suggest any specific hardware (preferably in the price range of the Airport Express)?
Yeah I would imagine that you would not want to replace the whole thing lol.


I don’t have any suggestions actually. I haven’t really looked into it. I believe there are at least Bluetooth adapters for systems but that’s all I got.
 
Edit: as Apple allows third party manufacturers to build Airplay compatible hardware, I wonder why no one yet released a simple Airplay adapter in the $100 price range – it seems the only Airplay compatible items are all-in-one speaker systems.

Good point, although third parties have been able to build AirPlay 1 hardware for years, and in that time no one build an AirPlay adapter. Not sure why though??
 
so there are glimmers of hope that the airport express will support airplay2 . Best Buy is selling refurbished ones for $60 and they still have some in stock. I picked up a couple, hoping that they will update the firmware to support airplay2. Not too bad to enable multiroom audio to existing speakers.
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This gives us hope though http://www.idownloadblog.com/2018/0...ll-apparently-gain-airplay-2-speaker-support/

I bought 2 refurbished ones from Best Buy (still have some in stock)
UPDATE: http://www.idownloadblog.com/2018/0...airplay-2-target-on-the-latest-ios-11-4-beta/

CRAAAAP

I still think they will update the FW to support Airplay2 after the final 11.4 ships!
 
Really stinks. Switched to a netgear nighthawk a few months ago and while generally the router works ok, attaching a drive and using it as a network time machine backup for my 4 macs has been a PITA. All 4 have had multiple issues where backups would just stop working and having to delete and start over again. Something that never happened with my Time Capsules (other than when I lost the whole drive) in 10 years.
 
Thanks. So the only possible replacement at the moment is a ATV with a good digital-analog converter connected to the HDMI-port. If only I wouldn't have to ask my neighbours to borrow their tv whenever the ATV needs to be setup (I assume that will be necessary on e.g. each OS update).

Edit: as Apple allows third party manufacturers to build Airplay compatible hardware, I wonder why no one yet released a simple Airplay adapter in the $100 price range – it seems the only Airplay compatible items are all-in-one speaker systems.

If you turn on automatic updates, the ATV will take care of itself in that regard.
 
...and choosing an alternative to the Mac Pro . . .
...and choosing an alternative to the Mac Mini . . .
...and choosing an alternative to the MBP (with decent keyboard and ports) . . .
...etc. . . .

Yep. With Apple also deprecating lots of functionality in OSX server its got to the point where I may as well buy an Intel NUC, run linux on it to act as my home server.

That will mean I will dump my ATVs for Kodi boxes
That will mean I dump my airports for Linux based routers
That will mean I replace my MBP with a linux based laptop
....

You can see where this is going

I have used Apple gear since the Mac 512KE, and in all honesty I am not sure I will be buying anything more, they are pushing me to alternatives.

Back in the days of the 6100 etc those machines were crap, its just the alternatives were worse. Now the alternatives are more viable than Apple because Apple is shooting its self in the foot for a quick buck.
 
Damned shame. I love this product. Only thing I could possibly want was AX connectivity, DynDNS support re-added, SMB 3.0 in addition to Bonjour and AFP, and that's it. Everything else is perfect. Maybe a bigger backup drive built into the Time Capsule, but I don't use that anyway. An 8TB USB drive works just fine.

Well, RIP. At least I've still got mine, and it ain't going anywhere until it dies on me.
 
And still no mention of an AirPlay follow on, or even a recommendation for a third party replacement.

I wonder whether this is all part of a deliberate attempt to kill off the ability to use Airplay on third-party speakers; an attempt to push the HomePod?

I don’t buy their reason. Apple is one of if not the biggest and most profitable company on the planet, yet they don’t have resources to maintain or update a router? Do they have trouble acquiring or retaining staff? Perhaps they should look at that if they can’t focus on other products while delivering something as simple as a router.
 
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I may need to try one before they are gone. I have tried 5 different, high cost 802.11ac routers, and cannot find one that is as stable, reliable and fast as my old 802.11n linksys

Have had absolutely no problems for 5 years now with my TP-Link C9 after having replaced my Airport with it following a lightening strike that took out the Airport.
 
I've had 4 routers since getting high speed internet back in 2003. The AE has been the best, most reliable of the four. I've tried Lynksys and SMC (twice) and each time, after a couple of years they've failed. The AE router covers most of my small 1300 sq ft house and will even give me some signal outside the house. I guess watches are what Apple thinks people need these days. They'll just leave the routers to either the usual suspect companies or the service providers.
 
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I’ve got a 2TB time capsule that I started using as an NAS drive. Works perfectly fine, but I’ll be happy to upgrade to something a bit faster when it dies. Been a great bit of hardware that has lasted many years.
 
Next time a new wireless standard comes out and the marketplace is fully of incompatible gear Apple are probably going to wish they still had their own access points. What bothers me the most is that they never released a router that could act as a HomeKit hub for all of the bluetooth crap in my house. That seems like an oversight that would not have been made if Jobs was still around.
 
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If I am going to be forced into Linux, then I may as well go Android too.
My replacement messaging platform for iMessage has been Signal. It's cross platform, and available for iDevices, Android, and Linux, Windows, and Macs. It uses strong encryption - first heard about it when Edward Snowden revealed he had used it when communicating with journalist Glenn Greenwald several years ago. Check out:
https://signal.org/

I only mention this as the Apple "walled garden" seems to be a large draw for folks tied into all-Apple products. The non-Apple world still lacks in that regard, but they're closing in rapidly.
 
It's not like they were making a bad product. I'm just so surprised a company making this much money is opening up the market with watches and ditching backend products like routers. I clearly don't have the sales numbers and i'm sure there's a valid reason behind cutting the Airport series, but man-o-man, I feel it's one product that was rock solid and helped with introducing everyone to the Apple ecosystem.

It will be interesting to see what Apple has in the next 5 years.

My guess is that the NSA told them to put backdoors in or get out of the market. Cook choose not to no fight that particular battle.

Of course, what do I know, but I can't think of any other reason other than Apple does not have the engineers anymore to move to a mesh setup, or Apple knows that the subcontractor supplying the airports does not have the same privacy and security standards as Apple. Of course it could also be that Apple does not consider integration and ease of use important anymore. Which does make some sense considering the admitted poor quality of their software.
 
My guess is that the NSA told them to put backdoors in or get out of the market. Cook choose not to no fight that particular battle.

Of course, what do I know, but I can't think of any other reason other than Apple does not have the engineers anymore to move to a mesh setup, or Apple knows that the subcontractor supplying the airports does not have the same privacy and security standards as Apple. Of course it could also be that Apple does not consider integration and ease of use important anymore. Which does make some sense considering the admitted poor quality of their software.
Another extrapolation would be that Apple is getting out of the home computer business in general - aka Macs - and will in the future focus on mobile products. That would entail their dropping home networking products.
 
Have you given Ubiquiti a try? Their Unifi system is incredible and has been extremely stable for me. They also have a more consumer friendly system called Amplifi which I have not tried.

I am slowly switching to Ubiquiti's UniFi system. So far I am loving it, just a little more on the expensive side, but then again I am going all UniFi, including switches.
 
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The Time Capsule I bought almost three years ago has been absolutely flawless. Connection always stays strong, never has any hiccups and having a backup always comes in handy.
 
Love(d) my AirPort Extreme and Express. Now that I've replaced them...what to do with them?
 
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