I was thinking more of the size of the screen. I can’t remember if the rest of the 6 is better or the same as the SE?
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Apple Being Sued for 'Purposefully Slowing Down Older iPhone Models' [Updated]
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I was thinking more of the size of the screen. I can’t remember if the rest of the 6 is better or the same as the SE?
This applies to all phone manufacturers.
An increase in battery capacity would mean that majority of users would not need to charge twice a day (power user) which is bad for life and majority of users would only deplete to 25% or so and the phone charging could be stopped at 80%. Big problem for battery life is charging to 100% and depleting to under 10% regularly.
Edit: Apple are guilty of having battery capacities about 2/3 of Samsung etc. This is coming back to bite them.
Wouldn't you prefer if you knew that they are now slowing down your device in order for your defective battery not to turn off your phone?
I'd rather know that if I replace the battery my device will not shut off any longer and I will be running in full speed without getting throttled.
Honesty is great, I guess you like getting lied to and have no options.
Apple makes the choices for you without having a say and you just keep handing them your money
You are their dream customer
I'm confident the court system will get to the bottom of it. Right now the only thing I can say for certain is the fact that the consumer has no idea if his battery is truly failing or not without resorting to a third party app and *if* he even suspects there's a problem with his battery when it still charges and the phone runs most of the day without an unusual drop on his battery indicator. This needs to be rectified.
Way to avoid the processor statement. Never said the apples processors aren’t powerful. But to say that current batteries can’t power them to their full potential is stupid
I dont believe anything you post.
All you do is trying to make excuses for Apple shady business decisions.
There's a few others like you that all you do is try to deny and try to patch up this huge scandal for Apple.
Guess what? Its not working, they will be brought to justice and get dragged through court as they deserve to be.
But Apple haven't been letting people know this. That is the problem.
Edit: And Apple"geniuses" haven't been explaining this either. And if you can believe it, they didn't know it either. Aye, right ;-)
Neither bad option.
Just honesty so we know to change the battery instead of buying a new phone.
But I guess that's too much to ask for.
Off to court they go
The defenders here need to cut the ****. Apple deceptively has added a software patch to slow your phone down should iOS determine your battery below a certain level. To further compound the deception and frustration, when you take your phone to Apple, they won’t even allow you to pay them to replace the battery because it’s not registering as too weak. If this isn’t fraud, I don’t know what is. This is like a Ponzi scheme... I won’t be buying another product from Apple until they completely resolve this and explain their intentions.
My 2013 MacBook Air has just started notifying me that the battery should be replaced soon. That's four years of daily heavy usage. I do notice that my MacBook Air does go to sleep suddenly without notice when waking from sleep while on battery power.
I've had iPhone 3G, 3GS and 4 models that all lasted several years without any significant battery concerns.
At the moment, I have an SE that is not impacted by this current "power management feature". My girlfriend's 6 is not affected either. Performance on both devices is how they were on day one.
I understand the general concern represented by these lawsuits, but can't help but feel they are also rooted in an overbearing sense of entitlement, or a tendency to rake anybody or any company over the coals whenever they do something one doesn't agree with. Welcome to the new world.
Apple is *not* doing anything malicious. Anybody with a sensible brain would understand that.
I've had iPhone 3G, 3GS and 4 models that all lasted several years without any significant battery concerns.
At the moment, I have an SE that is not impacted by this current "power management feature". My girlfriend's 6 is not affected either. Performance on both devices is how they were on day one.
I understand the general concern represented by these lawsuits, but can't help but feel they are also rooted in an overbearing sense of entitlement, or a tendency to rake anybody or any company over the coals whenever they do something one doesn't agree with. Welcome to the new world.
Apple is *not* doing anything malicious. Anybody with a sensible brain would understand that.
Real maliciousness would be having the patch slow down your phone entirely regardless of the health of your battery. If I wanted you to buy a new phone, why would I make it such that replacing the battery solves the slowdown issue altogether?
It’s probably more a breakdown in communication (and likely a serious lack of common sense). Apple is now a very huge company, and I won’t be surprised if details like this get lost in the shuffle.
My guess is that a bunch of engineers were presented with the issue of iPhones possibly shutting down at random, and since the issue was that the battery couldn’t supply enough power, their solution was to reduce the power draw so that this would no longer be a problem. And this fix somehow made its way to release without anyone asking “you don’t think people will be upset when they find out we are actually slowing down their phones?” Or maybe they did consider this and ultimately decided that slower performance was preferable to a constantly crashing device.
It’s just Apple being Apple, where they would rather just hide a lot of the complexity from the user. They did highlight the patch in the iOS update notes; and even spoke about it to TechCrunch (albeit rather vaguely), so it’s not like they were trying to bury the issue altogether. To Apple, it was just another fix in a sea of fixes.
No, it's time for all phones being fitted with adequate capacity batteries and adequate charging schemes used. Charge to 80% capacity and shut down at 15% to 20%. But users would see this as operating between 0% to 100%. Or provide user replacement battery. But ALL manufacturers would then see reduction in upgrades.
Edit: New battery tech if it solved battery degredation would actually not be welcome by manufacturers, especially Apple , who are serial under powerers of batteries.
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Good, then if the battery needs to be replaced tell me.
And let me pay for a new battery. But they dont allow that either for some add reason. I wonder why?
And guess what, all prior iphones never had that problem where the device just shuts off on its own.
You find that normal?
Its just a defective battery.
Are you bring deliberately obtuse. Apple didn't let people KNOW that replacing the battery would solve the slowdown issue. That is the basis of the legal action.
CPU clock frequency on my 6s was 911 MHz before changing battery. No benchmark program running. A friend of mines was running 600 MHz. Both phones went to 1848 MHz after new battery.
Why don’t you show us that Apple isn’t over throttling. Many people here have posted proof that it is occurring
I am aware of this. And I am saying that this was more an oversight on Apple’s part, rather than part of some larger conspiracy to get users to upgrade their phones sooner than they would otherwise have to.
What’s done is done, and there is no denying this. What is debatable however is Apple’s motives and intentions for doing so.
I am going to assume incompetence rather than malice here.
So your iPhone 4S used and charge every day still holds the same battery time and storage capacity as new then? I’m saying you cannot expect the battery to perform like new several years or charge cycles later.
Wow! You think I’m defending Apple? Erm ok... and it’s the consumers markets fault for accepting iPhones with sealed in batteries to blame for not having replaceable ones, Apple has in effect sealed the battery in since day one, and considering how many have bought one I don’t think they see it as a problem eh?
I agree, a user replaceable battery would be great, it Apple makes more money in you buying a new iPhone.
Oversight - Aye right!. And was it an oversight not to inform customer support about this as well?
Edit: As I understand, this was implemented a year ago, and Apple oversighted this for a whole year!
Possible. Customer support seems to be left out of the loop a lot.
And off course the customer is left out of the loop also...
They never tend to tell us they are taking advantage of us.
They just do it till they get caught.
When you (Apple) decide to charge 1200£ for a smartphone people expect the greatest. This means in a year or two years from now users' phone should still be very fast and not laggy at all. What has just happened to you Apple is also known as Karma. I had never owned an iPhone but I bought their most expensive product of their pipeline back in 2009, a Mac Pro 4,1 which still works perfectly fine (Good old days when Steve was still alive). As I said before, I never had an iPhone, but I still consider it the best smartphone in terms of built quality and especially when it comes to security features. The last three years I have been a customer of LG, ever since G4, G5 and V30 and I am happy and very satisfied. I went to an Apple Store just because I wanted to see the iPhoneX...I saw it, put it side by side to LG V30, people around me thought that I had the iPhone X Plus. I said no guys that s not an iPhone X Plus, it doesn't even exists, it's the LG V30 and costs 400£ less than an iPhone x. Don't bombard me with messages about iOS being updated constantly comparing to Android, I know it and I agree but in the end such a premium price cannot even justify it. Even Logitech offers now a webcam (Brio 4K) with IR face recognition. Anyway, iPhone now tends to be more of a fashion statement and showoff that you 've got money to spend.